Path: utzoo!utstat!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!ericom!eua.ericsson.se!erix.ericsson.se!per From: per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Re: Passing on unwanted groups Message-ID: <1990Aug21.104851@erix.ericsson.se> Date: 21 Aug 90 08:48:51 GMT References: <1990Aug14.181327.16145@eci386.uucp> <101429@uunet.UU.NET> <1990Aug15.164651.26664@zoo.toronto.edu> <49281@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> <1990Aug16.163107.1166@zoo.toronto.edu> Sender: news@eua.ericsson.se Reply-To: per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland) Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 23 In article <1990Aug16.163107.1166@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: |> In article <49281@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> jerry@olivey.olivetti.com (Jerry Aguirre) writes: |> >If the history file is so mangled that it is useless to recover expired |> >IDs from then there is this marvelous and powerful tool called "rm". |> |> Unfortunately, there is also a Unix tradition that "rm" isn't necessary, |> rebuilding something overwrites the old version automatically. I worry |> about naive sysadmins being tripped up by a non-traditional user interface |> in a time of stress. Emergency tools are the last place you want to get |> creative or minimalist about user interface. Unfortunately, too, the mkhistory script will not properly install the newly-built files if you have used the abovementioned tool on the old ones; you have to use the less powerful and more complex tool "cp /dev/null >". Of course, reading the script reveals what happened and what can be done about it, but as long as we're talking about emergency and stress... --Per Hedeland per@erix.ericsson.se or per%erix.ericsson.se@uunet.uu.net or ...uunet!erix.ericsson.se!per