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From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Installation woes (Re: Passing on unwanted groups)
Message-ID: <5fq0f2.zm6@smurf.sub.org>
Date: 24 Aug 90 08:14:24 GMT
References: <1990Aug15.164651.26664@zoo.toronto.edu> <1990Aug21.161506.21784@zoo.toronto.edu> <3ND5KOC@xds13.ferranti.com>
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
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In news.software.b, article <3ND5KOC@xds13.ferranti.com>,
  peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
< In article <1990Aug21.161506.21784@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
< > Somehow I doubt this; B News didn't exactly hold your hand every step of
< > the way either.
< 
< It did a better job than C news. Really. C news is a far superior product
< once you get it installed, but it's a pain to install and there are all
< sorts of administration gotchas. [...]

It starts when you try to compile the sources as Joe User, but install them
under "news". This process is straightforward, _but_ first you take the last
part of doit.bin and tack it in front of doit.news....

< > >Huh? Where is there a UNIX system where "chown $NEWSMASTER $NEWSCTL/active"
< > >won't work? ...
< > Systems where chown is in some strange place, like /etc, that isn't in the
< > default search path.
< Of course, the "build" script does ask where chown is, so you do know the
< strange place when you install the scripts...

Just watch someone install first perl and then C News.

People tend to look at me somewhat incredulously at these times.
Larrys config stuff finds out all about the machine you don't want to know
anyway, and C news asks you. Granted that configure doesn't work everywhere,
but in the majority of standard cases it's great.

But I seem to remember that we had this discussion a few months ago...

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