Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!apple!netcom!cmilono From: cmilono@netcom.UUCP (Carlo Milono) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: PC/AT Ethernet interfaces w 10BaseT transceiver built in? Message-ID: <12953@netcom.UUCP> Date: 30 Aug 90 22:55:31 GMT References: <1990Aug30.002629.21682@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> <1990Aug29.223110.27185@hellgate.utah.edu> <1990Aug30.092313@synoptics.com> Organization: Netcom- The Bay Area's Public Access Unix System {408 241-9760 guest} Lines: 36 Add to this list Hewlett-Packard, whose Ms. Thayer chairs the IEEE committee and who, along with others *rejected* the first Synoptics proposal - note that there is NO SUCH THING as a concentrator in the specs. And don't forget AT&T's StarLAN 10, which won the LAN Magazine Drag Race and subsequently the Ethernet Product of 1989. Historically, there have been roughly six major proposals for the standard: AUI1 H-P 2-pair MAU-MAU with AUI Interface with MPR AUI2 Synoptics concentrator without retiming Sync Chipcom Synchronous Manchester coding AUI/Coax 3COM/DEC Pair-tamer extension of 10BASE2 Mod Man David Sys Asymmetric MAU's different at each end OQPK Rypinski QPSK (quickly rejected) Until recently, Synoptics and Cabletron both offered incompatible equipment with any other vendor's - problems with Receive Equalization and voltage levels with Synoptics (along with the use of concentrator technology) and Idle Signal use, respectively. I understand that they now support *true* interoperable 10BASET products (incompatible with their previous line). This is one of the problems of being 'first to market/first to buy'. Also, be aware that FCC registration and actual FCC compliance of Rack style MPR's are two different things - I sincerely doubt that any Rack unit, although stickered and given an FCC number, would actually pass the stringent tests in the real world. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Carlo Milono | | Personal: netcom!cmilono@apple.com or apple!netcom!cmilono | |"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere | | in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." B.Watterson | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+