Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!pacbell!pacbell.com!ucsd!ucbvax!ira.uka.DE!nipper From: nipper@ira.uka.DE (Arnold Nipper --- XLINK) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Long lines... Message-ID: <9008311711.AA18965@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 31 Aug 90 17:11:23 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 58 X-Unparsable-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 90 14:06:53 MET DST >Hi, > >Many of you may have seen the following on the TCP-IP mailing list. Anyone >have any suggestions or comments? > >Thanks, >Phill >------- Forwarded Message > >Date: 30 Aug 90 09:14:35 GMT >From: Michel Fingerhut >Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France) >Subject: Internet routing Europe -> USA -> Europe... >To: tcp-ip@nic.ddn.mil > >While trying to find whether we (in France, Europe) could reach a site >in Germany (Europe), I got the following route from traceroute: > >1 ircam-gw (129.102.0.1) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms >2 fnet-gw.inria.fr (192.44.64.26) 370 ms 550 ms 480 ms >3 sophia-gw.inria.fr (192.5.60.250) 540 ms 350 ms 290 ms >4 cisco.atlantic.fr (192.33.170.1) 1430 ms 1160 ms 490 ms >5 wormhole.Princeton.EDU (128.112.128.114) 680 ms 710 ms 410 ms >6 ford-gateway.jvnc.net (130.94.0.66) 480 ms 530 ms * >7 nss.jvnc.net (192.12.211.1) 910 ms 640 ms 650 ms >8 Pittsburgh.PA.NSS.NSF.NET (129.140.69.8) 400 ms 500 ms * >9 Ithaca.NY.NSS.NSF.NET (129.140.74.5) 630 ms 720 ms 760 ms >10 lan.cornell.site.psi.net (192.35.82.1) 790 ms 900 ms 930 ms >11 cornell.syr.pop.psi.net (128.145.30.1) 1100 ms 530 ms * >12 albpop.syr.pop.psi.net (128.145.20.2) 740 ms 760 ms 590 ms >13 albpop.nyc2.pop.psi.net (128.145.80.1) 780 ms 920 ms 830 ms >14 nyc2.nyc1.pop.psi.net (128.145.42.2) 700 ms 500 ms 580 ms >15 * nyc_P.lan.nyc1.pop.psi.net (128.145.213.1) 1410 ms 1090 ms >16 nyc1.cuny.pop.psi.net (128.145.14.1) 790 ms 590 ms 910 ms >17 128.145.254.5 (128.145.254.5) 920 ms 740 ms 710 ms >18 iracs1.ira.uka.de (192.54.104.49) 1310 ms 1140 ms 1190 ms > >I.e.: Paris -> South France -> NJ -> PE -> Ithaca (upst. NY--hi, alma matter!) -> >Syracuse (upst. NY) -> NYC, NY -> ? -> Deutschland > >Why this contorted route? Is it cost-effective? > iThat's what I see doing a traceroute to 129.102.0.1: traceroute to 129.102.0.1 (129.102.0.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 iracs1.ira.uka.de (129.13.1.1) 20 ms 0 ms 0 ms 2 ciscogb5.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE (188.1.132.1) 1020 ms 840 ms 1080 ms 3 Amsterdam.NL.EU.NET (134.222.1.1) 4120 ms * 3800 ms 4 Paris.FR.EU.NET (134.222.2.2) 4340 ms 4900 ms 3760 ms 5 fnet-gw.inria.fr (128.93.36.128) 3880 ms 3740 ms * 6 192.44.64.61 (192.44.64.61) 3980 ms 4960 ms * Arnold Nipper ******************************************************************************** Arnold Nipper *** Universitaet Karlsruhe, Am Fasanengarten 5 * nipper@ira.uka.de XLINK, Inst. fuer Betr.- und Dialogsysteme, D-7500 Karlsruhe * +49 721 608 4331 ********************************************************************************