Path: utzoo!utgpu!cunews!bnrgate!uunet!mcsun!dfk From: dfk@eu.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Newsgroups: eunet.followup,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Internet routing Europe - USA -} Europe... Message-ID: <1790@mcsun.eu.net> Date: 4 Sep 90 06:59:24 GMT References: <1990Aug30.091435.1982@ircam.ircam.fr Followup-To: eunet.followup Organization: European Unix systems User Group Lines: 29 lmjm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Lee McLoughlin) writes: >My parting question is directed the those that run UKNET: when is >tcp/ip going to be available to UKNET members in the same way as it is >to Eunet members? My understanding of the situation is that those that *run* UKNET would very much like to offer that service. The problem is that the organisation where the backbone site is housed fears political pressures from ISOrmites both inside and outside of that organisation. So far not quite enough paying customers have surfaced to set up a separate organisation offering IP services in the UK. Something else: At the last RIPE meeting there were (weak) signals to be heared from the JNT that IP over JANET is not as indiscussable as it used to be. That was -again- for some privileged sites that spoke up. Maybe those who want it should make up a case and go ask again. I won't hold my breath but on the other hand you change nothing by sitting and waiting (and complaining to the rest of the world). Got to the JNT and ask them about services like X-windows, NFS etc. *now*. Daniel -- Daniel Karrenberg Future Net: CWI, Amsterdam Oldie Net: mcsun!dfk The Netherlands Because It's There Net: DFK@MCVAX