Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!axion!vision!chris From: chris@vision.UUCP (Chris Davies) Newsgroups: uk.misc,eunet.followup,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Internet routing Europe - USA -} Europe... Summary: Academic vs Comercial Sites Message-ID: <1213@vision.UUCP> Date: 4 Sep 90 12:27:26 GMT References: <1990Aug30.091435.1982@ircam.ircam.fr <6190@vanuata.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> Reply-To: chris@vision.UUCP (Chris Davies) Organization: VisionWare Ltd., Leeds, UK Lines: 25 In article lmjm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Lee McLoughlin) writes: ... >Even something as simple as running tcp/ip over JANET so we can have >some degree of sane networking here in the UK seems to be out. The >JANET powers that be do not want anything as useful as tcp/ip sullying >there network! God forbid you should be able to use the networking Not only can't you use tcp/ip over JANET, but commercial sites (in my experience) can't even use JANET as it stands - not even for real money. So no NIFTP, etc. >My parting question is directed the those that run UKNET: when is >tcp/ip going to be available to UKNET members in the same way as it is >to Eunet members? What a wonderful thought. Perhaps commercial sites would be allowed to use it too (at less that 10k p.a. for the privilege)? Chris -- VISIONWARE LTD | UK: chris@vision.uucp JANET: chris%vision.uucp@ukc 57 Cardigan Lane | US: chris@vware.mn.org OTHER: chris@vision.co.uk LEEDS LS4 2LE | BANGNET: ...{backbone}!ukc!vision!chris England | VOICE: +44 532 788858 FAX: +44 532 304676 -------------- "VisionWare: The home of DOS/UNIX/X integration" --------------