Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!ucbvax!world.std.com!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: Re: Feedback on Computer Crime - Apology Message-ID: <9008292257.AA23568@world.std.com> Date: 29 Aug 90 22:57:24 GMT References: <567@helios.prosys.se> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 20 >> Remember "innocent until proven guilty?" [ ... ] > >Is this really the wording? The use of 'until' has a rather nasty >undertone of "it's just a matter of time - but we'll get you." > >I've always thought it was "unless proven guilty". Actually, no such phrase occurs in the US Constitution, I don't know where it's written to check the phrasing against. It's also often referred to as "Presumption of Innocence". I believe its roots are in English common law, and might be stated in the Magna Carta (I don't have a copy handy, if anyone happens to have the Magna Carta on-line I'd love a copy.) -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | {xylogics,uunet}!world!bzs | bzs@world.std.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD