Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!daver!vsi1!zorch!xanthian From: xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Lattice/SAS C Message-ID: <1990Aug30.125917.18354@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Date: 30 Aug 90 12:59:17 GMT References: <113@stbimbo.UUCP> <12911@june.cs.washington.edu> Organization: SF Bay Public-Access Unix Lines: 39 dylan@june.cs.washington.edu (Dylan McNamee) writes: > jer@stbimbo.UUCP (John Ramspott) writes: >>I have been a little disturbed over some of the Lattice/SAS flaming going on. > >As for the $2/minute fee. I think that's fine (or even cheap) for >being able to talk to a competent Human about problems. However, those >of us on Usenet have 1000's of competent people to ask questions of. >For things like patches to fix bugs and all (like the 5.02->5.04 upgrade) >charging that much is pretty scary. Especially in the 5.02 case, where >there were copies of 5.02 that broke the patch. At 2400 baud, $2/minute >get's mighty expensive. OK, I'm confused. Is the $2/min the voice support or the BBS support? (By the way, the fact that you might have USENet access has exactly nothing to do with how SAS prices their support calls! Why would you expect them to know, or to offer you a different price?) >>OK, now the bad news. There is one thing that Lattice has done that needs to >>be fixed. They have not supported their C++ compiler!!! Hello SAS? Do you > >When I ordered, I asked the person on the phone (Diane Gomez) about the >new C++. She distinctly said 2nd quarter '91. So now they're talking >about it. It will be good. Well, that's not exactly great news, since equally "authoritative" reports here earlier this month had a C++ upgrade coming out October '90. Either they are having bad problems with it, or they have backtracked to release a 2.1 language revision product instead of a 2.0 product. Their total lack of progress over the long term that other vendors have been supplying a 2.0 product doesn't look any better than it did before, and the steadily retreating issue date looks like more of the same. Kent, the man from xanth. -- Severely disenchanted Lattice C++ R1.0 owner.