Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uunet!mcsun!ukc!harrier.ukc.ac.uk!djb1 From: djb1@ukc.ac.uk (David Beckett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: GIF Viewing again and again (summary) Keywords: GIF, conversion, IFF Message-ID: <5373@harrier.ukc.ac.uk> Date: 30 Aug 90 16:36:01 GMT Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK. Lines: 62 Phew! Big response to my original article, including from the authors of some of the programs mentioned (HamGIF and GIFMachine). From the discussion, I have made the following conclusions: * Some programs need lots of stack eg GIFtoIFF * Some (Most) programs need lots of memory eg FBM, GIFtoIFF, ... Since I only (!) have 1Meg, with lots of resident programs to make the machine usable, this is a problem. * Some programs chop off images at the screen width/height eg HamGIF , VirtGIF (unregistered versions) * Some crash/hang on certain images eg HamSharp and GIFtoIFF In response to several (mail) replies - I have come to the conclusion that you need at least :-) a 68030 board, 4meg and a large hard disc to do conversions easily and fast. The program that I finally got working - HamSharp - did most of the images I wanted except the largest ones 1192x900 bw Sun raster image (I think that's the dimensions) The problem was lack of memory - obviously a single large chunk is needed. This applied to other programs I tried also which barfed at the size. It looks like I will have to write a UNIX version. The ones that it didn't do, I used GIFtoIFF to do. [Aside: Why call the program HamSharp - gives *NO* idea that the program is a GIF to IFF conversion ! ] HamLab: Shareware with crocking - I didn't bother since all my pictures are >500x500 and I can convert them OK usually. I tried FBM (Fuzzy BitMaps) off a fish disk. It also didn't work due to memory problems. I even tried compiling the UNIX PBMPLUS toolkit on my Sun 4/330 but it crashed. So much for portable software. Some people mention converting to RGB format read by Digi-View. This is no use to me since I do not own it, and anyway this probably takes up *even more* space! As for displaying the images, thats no problem, I have a disk full of file viewers that can display most of the types. I have had *no* problem displaying a 1152x900 picture on my Native 1.3 Amiga (came with new chipset). *ALL* I wanted was a simple FD converter program to look at some FD images. By using a combination of several programs I nearly get this. [FD=Freely Distributable - a better term than PD in my opinion] Any more comments? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Beckett | djb1@ukc.ac.uk Computing Lab., University of Kent, Canterbury,Kent,UK | ..!mcsun!ukc!djb1