Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cunixf.cc.columbia.edu!cunixa.cc.columbia.edu!cmm1 From: cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Commodore gets serious? You judge. Message-ID: <1990Sep1.135734.7714@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Date: 1 Sep 90 13:57:34 GMT References: <29164@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Sender: news@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (The Daily News) Reply-To: cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 105 In article <29164@nigel.ee.udel.edu> BARRETT@owl.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > >In message <15500060@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes: > >> As of August 1st, 1990, all Amiga 500's, A590 hard drives, A1011 external >>floppy drives, and 1581 floppy drives, C64's, and 1541-II disk drives will be >>shipped with a factory seal on the units' seam. The seal is silver metallic >>with black lettering. Authorized service centers have also been sent silver >>labels with RED letters, all tracked, for installation after warranty service >>is completed. Dealers can get them by signature, but only 25 at a time for >>tracking purposes. >> >>"IF ANY CUSTOMER BRINGS A MACHINE IN WITH A WARRANTY SEAL BROKEN OR TAMPERED >>WITH, THE MACHINE IS NO LONGER COVERED UNDER WARRANTY." >> >>Bottom line: If you buy a machine and want to expand the memory INSIDE the >>unit [note: this only is referring to the products listed above, not the A2000 >>or A3000 - Lionel], GO TO YOUR DEALER!!! If you do it, and the machine breaks >>within that first year, you just paid for the repair bill!! BUYER BEWARE! >> >>[end of excerpt] >> >>< Lionel > >*FLAME ON* I guess I shouldn't be surprised. > This is a positively stupid policy. What is the good in having a >system with slots if they cannot be used? I can't imagine that they would prevent you from using the slots. Isn't that the whole purpose of having them so that a mere user can add certain capabilities to his/her machine WITHOUT going to a service center. Besides, the message as quoted here doesn't even mention the A2000-3000 machines. > > Apple had a similar policy with respect to the MAC when it was first >released, and received a LOT of (deserved) flack for it. They then Actually, it wasn't too obtrusive when the Mac first came out since there were NO slots in the machine. So most people I knew just waited 90 days before bumping up their memory. :) >realized their mistake and stopped using this policy. Unfortunately, >Commodore is too stupid to see the mistakes of other companies such >as Apple and not make the same mistakes themselves. I think the policy will be quite effective in weeding out the scumbags like Montgomery Grant. I think this is more important than te small incovenience to a few net.crybabies. > > With a policy like this, Commodore might as well not manufacture >A3000s or A2000s, because they will not sell. This policy, combined Like I said, 2000's and 3000's don't seem to be part of the program. Lighten up, man. >with Commodore's totally-wimpy one-year warranty (most PC clone and >workstation manufacturers have a warranty of at least three years), HEHEHEHE! Weren't you one of the people bitching and moaning that CBM should raise the warranty to keep up with Apple et al? Now that a few clone makers have longer ones, you're clamoring for more. I guess there is no satisfying certain people. There are quite a few companies out there with the standard 90 day warranty intact. Just check out Atari Corp. >and the fact that 33Mhz 386 clones are available for less than the >educational price of the A3000/16, will cause a lot of people to give >up on Commodore altogether. Well, this is true IF you buy a very vanilla system with not too much memory and average graphics. To get a really nice 386-33 system, you would have to spend $3.5K-5K so I think the prices are in the same ballpark. > Commodore is not in a position to make mistakes like this. This >will hurt Commodore in a big way if they insist on continuing this >policy. 3000's seem to be selling like hotcakes in New York city. >FLAME OFF <-----------> -MB- Hehe, oxymoron. ^^^^^ Cheers, Chris p.s. Suggest you try Sanka. ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null | ------------------------------+---------------------------