Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!rutgers!usc!wuarchive!udel!udccvax1!don From: don@vax1.acs.udel.EDU (Donald R Lloyd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Commodore gets serious? You judge. Message-ID: <6891@vax1.acs.udel.EDU> Date: 1 Sep 90 13:18:58 GMT References: <29164@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Reply-To: don@vax1.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 63 In article <29164@nigel.ee.udel.edu> BARRETT@owl.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > >In message <15500060@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> writes: >> [Warranty stuff deleted] >> >>Bottom line: If you buy a machine and want to expand the memory INSIDE the >>unit [note: this only is referring to the products listed above, not the A2000 >>or A3000 - Lionel], GO TO YOUR DEALER!!! >>within that first year, you just paid for the repair bill!! BUYER BEWARE! >*FLAME ON* > This is a positively stupid policy. What is the good in having a >system with slots if they cannot be used? > > Apple had a similar policy with respect to the MAC when it was first [more gripes deleted] > With a policy like this, Commodore might as well not manufacture >A3000s or A2000s, because they will not sell. Ummm, reread the message you replied to, with special attention to the portion I quoted above. This ONLY APPLIES TO THE 500!! Read a little more carefully before you flame... >This policy, combined >with Commodore's totally-wimpy one-year warranty (most PC clone and >workstation manufacturers have a warranty of at least three years), >and the fact that 33Mhz 386 clones are available for less than the >educational price of the A3000/16, will cause a lot of people to give >up on Commodore altogether. > I just pulled out my recent computer shopper. A quick skim through the ads by some of the more reputable-appearing outfits almost universally have 1 year warranties on their systems. I say almost just to cover anything I might have missed, but as far as I can tell they ALL have 1 year warranties. Yes, you can get a 33MHz 386 for less than the ed price of a 3000/16. But such systems generally are made of cheap generic parts by companies which might not be there the next day. You can get them from reputable companies for around the cost of the 3000/25... but usually with mono monitors (or none at all), only 1 or 2 EISA slots (or none at all, with just the slow AT bus). Then you have to buy your operating system separately, at added cost. DOS and windows will cost another $200, and still don't have anywhere near the functionality of AmigaDOS (especially on anything less than a 386). And you're still running 8-bit code on a 32-bit processor with a slow bus and no DMA or coprocessors (unless you pay some extra money for a 387; all 3000's have math coprocessors) and slow displays. As for people giving up on Commodore.. from what I hear, sales are higher than they've been since the C64's glory days; the 3000 is back ordered into the thousands, and CBM has been opening up production on weekends to help keep up with the demand. This doesn't sound like a company people are giving up on. > -MB- Ah. That explains it. -- Gibberish .sig for sale or lease. is spoken Contact don@vax1.acs.udel.edu for more information. here. DISCLAIMER: It's all YOUR fault.