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From: Radagast@cup.portal.com (sullivan - segall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga,news.admin,news.groups
Subject: Re: Whoops: Any NEW sites receiving comp.sys.amiga.games?
Message-ID: <33476@cup.portal.com>
Date: 2 Sep 90 23:04:41 GMT
References: <1990Aug29.132837.13649@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>
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>>	So tell me, was it all worth the effort?  Are there any sites that
>>	actually ADDED comp.sys.amiga.games, after all was said and done?

>>The stuff's been arriving at PORTAL for some time.  The earliest unexpired
>>item still online is dated 3-Aug-1990, and the last screenful looks like
>>the "dump" appended to this response.
>
>Thanks, Thad, but not what I was looking for; my fault.  I typed "news"
>when I meant "new" in the subject line, and never noticed.
>
>The question I'm trying to have answered is very explicit:  did the
>newgroup control message sent out by Eliot Lear, on or about 17 August
>1990, cause ANY sites to add comp.sys.amiga.games to their list of
>active newsgroups.  To date, I have no evidence for an affirmative answer.
>
In general Portal doesn't add any new newsgroups until they are *real*
groups.  The time period you are talking about was a bit unusual for Portal
because we had just had several other groups added, and Portal was anxious
to get caught up with the rest of the world.  As a general rule however,
Portal will ignore new groups until there is a noticeably amount of traffic
on them, and either several people have requested that the group be added 
(implying that they noticed the voting procedure discussion and are 
interested in the new group, and therefor that the group is indeed valid)
or the owners of Portal noticed the voting themselves and decided to add
the group to Portal to improve its appeal or completeness.
 
Disclaimer:  I don't speak for Portal, I only use it to read NetMail.  The
above statements are conjecture, not fact.  They are based on impressions
gleaned over the last two years as Portal has grown and changed to more
closely resemble the network hierarchies, and carry the newer newsgroups.
 
IMHO this is one place where new groups would not be quickly added without
proper voting procedure. -kls