Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!prls!pyramid!cbmvax!cbmehq!babylon!rbabel From: rbabel@babylon.UUCP (Ralph Babel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: GVP Trade-in Message-ID: <03283.AA03283@babylon.UUCP> Date: 27 Aug 90 04:42:50 GMT References: <589@oregon.oacis.org> <38CP09P@dri.com> <02048.002057@thiger.UUCP> <83242@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <1143@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> Lines: 43 In article <02048.002057@thiger.UUCP> skraw@thiger.UUCP (Stephan von Krawczynski) writes: > 1. GVP does not DMA to amiga-memory. Not true, GVP does full DMA! This guy doesn't know what he's talking about - a very bad habit when you're talking about a competitor's product. See my earlier articles for details. > 2. why is DMA so important for you? it is generally slower > than the processor-method (lets call it this way). Careful ... > you win nothing because you have a whole lot of DMA going > on already inside the system and processor's running into > heavy troubles sometimes, e.g. harddisk-performance is > very low while using overscan-graphics (just to mention an > example). "PROCESSOR's running into heavy troubles"? Freudian slip? DMA to real Fast-RAM should not be affected by the DMA-load on Chip-RAM. And if Zorro-II DMA cannot get to the Chip-RAM, then the processor probably cannot either. >> The new hardcard board with space >> for 1 MEG SIMMS looks like a great idea. > > this is the absolut last idea one could have, because if > you upgrade your amiga with a 020/030/0x0-board (having > 32-bit mem) you have some slow memory hanging around and > will never get rid of it. I think there are quite a few Amiga users around who are happy with a 68000-based Amiga, a hard disk, and RAM. I won't comment on the other stuff. david r watters and Michael van Elst did a perfect job on that. Thanks guys! Ralph