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From: nrunyon%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Neil Runyon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS?(long)
Message-ID: <1990Sep1.123520.16462@hellgate.utah.edu>
Date: 1 Sep 90 18:35:20 GMT
References: <1990Sep1.025620.7757@utstat.uucp>
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Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
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In article <1990Sep1.025620.7757@utstat.uucp> philip@utstatsun.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>There have been so many comments regarding the sad state of the GS these
>days( especially surrounding the Ultima issue) that I feel some other 
>perspective on the matter couldn't hurt.
>
>It has been said that returning the GS to a healthy state is an almost
>impossible task. People worry about the state of the Mac, and the perceived
>lack of software for both computers. People think Windows3.0 will have a
>detrimental effect on the Mac, GS.
[tons cut...see article #5110]

	I agree that the GS has alot of potential, and I agree with quite a
bit of what Philip says.  Personally, I see things in the Apple II that you
just don't see with other computers.  One is the number of "Hackers" that go
and learn their machine inside out, add on boards, EPROMS, etc.  This  is the
kind of stuff that Apple II users are famous for, and something that is quite
appealing to those who do.
	I also find the ability to switch between a window and shell enviorn-
ment a nessesity.  Grant, you can do this on an IBM, but to tell you the 
truth, Windows on the IBM just doesn't cut it (even 3.0).  The Apple windows
are far superior to anything else on the market (Apple being both computers).
	There are still quite a few "die-hards" for the Apple II that would
support the new II in a second.  The current status of the II may not be the
best, but then again, look at where the Amiga stood for 4 years.  The II can
make a comeback!  The support is getting there, not so much from the large
companies that were built on Apple, but a good deal of new little ones that
want to keep the II alive, and give the users the kind of support that we have
lost.
	Look at 8/16...the magazine has boomed since it was introduced, and
a few compaines like Tatio and Britanicca are still supporting us, now we need
to support them.  We the users on the Apple II can bring the computer back, 
and back to glory...the only question is how badly do we want to?

	Neil - II Infinitum

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