Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <9008281216.AA27824@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 28 Aug 90 13:16:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 198 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Aug 28, 1990 In this issue: RE: CACHEPROGRAM (3 messages) COLORS ONRAINBOW (2 messages) MS-WORD RE: COLORS ONRAINBOW RAINBOWCOLORS Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed to the Rainbow Echo on FidoNet. You do not need to take special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 08-26-90 (07:09) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: CACHEPROGRAM From: DON MARQUART > PR> supplies or supports your program. On the other hand, a company that > PR> goes out of business without a successor or assignee, is 'dead' and > PR> thus any contract with it dies. > > So if the owner of the RainboWorks clock program is dead, and there is no > successor, there should be no legal problem making it available here. If your really concerned I could maybe dig out his home phone number and you could contact his wife for approval providing of course she hasn't moved in all this time. > Question: wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that the party to whom the > hardware was conveyed has the right to avail himself of a copy of the > software offered by another party? Technically, the true ownership of the software is determined by posession of the "original" distribution disk and license. Legally you should get by with just the original disk to prove ownership. Later... - --- ConfMail V4.00 * Origin: Club Micro * CompuMatch (303)973-8578 (1:104/888) ------------------------------ Date: 08-25-90 (22:28) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: COLORS ONRAINBOW From: FRANK MALLORY GT> From: genrad!rxf@husc6.harvard.edu ( Ruben D. Fagundo ) Organization: GT> GenRad GT> GT> Does anyone know how to program the colors on the rainbow. I have GT> written a few small programs, that would look better with some color, GT> but I have no idea how this is done. I have tried some of the pc's GT> color routines, with no success. I have also looked at the vt240's GT> manual to see if it's a matter of a an ansi escape sequence, but I GT> couldn't find anything appropriate. If I could just get a hold of the GT> source to something like desk or scram, I think I could figure this GT> out. Has anyone written any small, C programs that use the Rb's colors? You need the VT241 (not 240) Programmer Reference Manual. Alternatively,you will find the sequences in the Terminals & Printers Handbook, Appendix C, ReGIS Writing Controls Summary and Screen Controls Summary tables. That's all I know about it; I have never programmed in color (unless you count a blue funk). GT> I have already asked this question with no response, so I thought I'd GT> try it again. Any help would be appreciated. The Rainbow messages seem to be flowing thru Fidonet a lot better now. - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417) ------------------------------ Date: 08-26-90 (19:06) To: ALL Subject: MS-WORD From: FRANK MALLORY Has anyone out there tried running Microsoft WORD on the Rainbow? - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417) ------------------------------ Date: 08-26-90 (13:40) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: COLORS ONRAINBOW From: ED RIDPATH In text mode the Rainbow only has one color. To access color, you must shift to graphics mode, then you have to form the letters yourself. The tech. ref. has complete source to do this, but it is quite a pain, and IMHO not worth it. Ed - --- msged 1.999.9 * Origin: Keep It Simple - Aiken, SC (803) 648-0283 (1:360/11.101) ------------------------------ Date: 08-26-90 (19:42) To: DON MARQUART Subject: RE: CACHEPROGRAM From: FRANK MALLORY DM> If your really concerned I could maybe dig out his home phone number DM> and you could contact his wife for approval providing of course she DM> hasn't moved in all this time. I don't think it's worth bothering her about. Only one person expressed an interest in the RBW program, and nobody at all has downloaded it since I made it available here. I'll simply wait another week, then remove it as being of limited interest. - --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417) ------------------------------ Date: 08-26-90 (20:59) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: CACHEPROGRAM From: CARL HOUSEMAN re: This particular software item was furnished as an adjunct to a hardware item (viz., clock). Withtout the software, the hardware has no value, and vice versa. Now this is sounding more and more like the VMS license controversy recently reported by DR. Do you still get your copy, Frank? DEC is now starting to treat VMS licenses as something that travels with the CPU *board* and cannot be transferred to a replacement board if one should acquire one outside of DEC's provisions. Thus an upgrade of a 6310 to a 6410 done by the customer requires the complete re-purchase of a VMS license for the 6410. As for the clock board, and the way I treat most similar software (e.g. hard disk formatting programs sent along with HD controllers, etc.) is that the software DOES travel with the hardware. In most cases - and especially in the RB clock situation (any one of them) - the software is useless to someone without the hardware, as you stated. Therefore posting the software would hardly seem to a case for legal action, unless that software could be used with some (competitor's) hardware. Didn't SS distribute an updated CLIKCLOK program through the BBS network? - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-26-90 (21:08) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: COLORS ONRAINBOW From: CARL HOUSEMAN Just a note - the VT-240 programmer's manual won't do a Rainbow owner much good unless he's running Rainbow REGIS. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-27-90 (07:51) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: RAINBOWCOLORS From: PAUL OLSON If you are talking about changing the colors of the text on the standard 'bow alphanumeric screen, there is no way to do it. The color graphics option has its own memory and separate processor. The only way to program in color is to address the graphics processor, passing information to it through the graphics interface. For characters, the processor will create simple line characters, and that's not what most folks want. You might be able to get it to scroll properly, but you will have to control the scan lines. There are a few good interfaces for Turbo Pascal out on the BBS's, one by a guy named Ken Nist. I have used his routines when working on my fractal programs. You could try converting his code. It is mostly in-line assembly, so I'd think all you'd have to do is to convert the Pascal portions to C. I believe the name of the program is RBGRAPH.ARC, or something along those lines. It has been a long time since I looked for TPascal interfaces, because once I found Nist's I didn't need to look anymore. If you need any more help, let me know. As Always, Paul - --- ConfMail V3.31 * Origin: The Pot of Gold - (703-359-6549) (1:109/103) ------------------------------