Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uunet!crdgw1!ge-dab!tarpit!bilver!bill From: bill@bilver.UUCP (Bill Vermillion) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Baud vs. bps. Message-ID: <936@bilver.UUCP> Date: 29 Aug 90 05:18:18 GMT References: <849@idcapd.idca.tds.philips.nl-> <4188@trantor.harris-atd.com> <5001@pegasus.ATT.COM> Reply-To: bill@bilver.UUCP (Bill Vermillion) Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL Lines: 42 In article <5001@pegasus.ATT.COM-> dmt@pegasus.ATT.COM (Dave Tutelman) writes: ->>In article <849@idcapd.idca.tds.philips.nl> lexw@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (Lex Wassenberg) writes: ->>> ->>>Okay, in some recent articles there were these hints about the difference ->>>between "baud" and "bits per second". Now I for one have always thought that ->>>baud and bps is the same. So what's the difference? Has it something to do ->>>with bits that don't carry actual data like start and stop bits? Or is it ->>>more subtle? Thanks to anyone who can inform me (and others). ->>> ________________ -> ->In article <4188@trantor.harris-atd.com> sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis) writes: ->> ->> Baud rate and Bit rate are two different things (although they ->>are sometimes numerically equal). ->> ->>THE LIGHTS DIM AS THE LEGEND BEGINS... -> ->... [ excellent discussion of transmission symbols that carry ->... more than one bit ] ->... BUT ... -> ->> THE BIT RATE *ALWAYS* IS EQUAL TO THE BAUD RATE TIMES THE ->> NUMBER OF INFORMATION BITS CARRIED PER BAUD TIME BY THE MODEM. Try this - bit rate is equal to baud rate time bits per baud times channels per carrier. Take a 7 cycle carrier, phase modulate it up to 6 bits per baud, and that give you 42 bits/second. Take 400 of these channels and put them down a phone line (400 * 7 = 2800hz - enough to fit inside the 3kHz bandwith of a voice grade line) and you wind up with 6 * 7 * 400 or 16800 bps on what is nominally a 7 baud (or 42 baud?) signal. Do you know what that scheme is. That's a Telebit Trailblazer - getting up to 18003 bps over a phone line with no compression. Bits and baud are a LONG way apart in that machine. -- Bill Vermillion - UUCP: uunet!tarpit!bilver!bill : bill@bilver.UUCP