Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!resnick From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Telnet 2.4Beta & MacTCP Message-ID: <1990Aug28.222924.18488@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 28 Aug 90 22:29:24 GMT References: <13043@hydra.gatech.EDU> <15384@reed.UUCP> <13111@hydra.gatech.EDU> Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 40 ccastvf@prism.gatech.EDU (Vincent Fox) writes: >Okay, next obvious question to the net. Has NCSA decided to make us >dependent on purchasing MacTCP? The nice thing about it to me was being >able to ftp to zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu and grab the latest copy. If NCSA >has decided to stop including the drivers in their new version, we will >just have to stick with 2.2. MacTCP is fine for a few machines, but >very expensive for clusters full. Plus the problem that your average >MacDummy will come along, open the control panel, and type some random >numbers into the IP number box to see what happens. Well, I can't say if NCSA is going to be only using MacTCP, but you do get a couple of things wrong: 1. Version 2.3 of NCSA Telnet still has the NCSA TCP drivers. People continue to use 2.2 with all of its bugs even though 2.3 has been out for a long time. I think some companies are still distributing 2.2 with hardware. Look out for it! 2. Granted MacTCP gets expensive for a site-license, but if you are at a university, let the U pick up the tab and get the license for the whole place. It gets cheap pretty quick. 3. MacDummy can't change the Control Panel if you set it up in the protected mode with AdminTCP, which comes with MacTCP. And MacDummy can always change the IP number in NCSA Telnet with NCSA TCP drivers. Safer with MacTCP. MacTCP is really the way to go. Though NCSA's TCP is great, it is missing the ability to do multiple streams, etc., and as NCSA says in the manual, TCP should be a OS responsibility and not part of the applications. pr -- Pete Resnick (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?) Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC Internet/ARPAnet/EDUnet : resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu BITNET (if no other way) : FREE0285@UIUCVMD