Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!sceard!mrm From: mrm@sceard.Sceard.COM (M.R.Murphy) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: Does Microport offer Updates to its users? Message-ID: <1990Sep2.182531.27736@sceard.Sceard.COM> Date: 2 Sep 90 18:25:31 GMT References: <846@iiasa.UUCP> <847@iiasa.UUCP> <10615@rls.UUCP> <334@uport.UUCP> <723@vidiot.UUCP> <1737@ssbn.WLK.COM> Reply-To: mrm@Sceard.COM (M.R.Murphy) Organization: Sceard Systems, Inc. San Marcos, CA 92069 Lines: 32 In article <1737@ssbn.WLK.COM> bill@ssbn.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy) writes: [stuff indicating mild disappointment with Microport deleted :-)] >I'll grumble and growl about ISC and AT&T but I'll stick with them because >their products work. There are quirks and thinks that annoy, but they >don't hurt you. I screamed and howled about Microport because they hurt >you and laugh about it. Our '286 uPort systems have mean time between reboots of more than 60 days. When we got 'em out of the box from uPort that wasn't the case. uPort provided support as they were able, the gracious, kind, and generous dwellers of the net provided even more. uPort never laughed. For one used to source distribution environments in Unix(tm), the binary distribuition environment is a royal pain in the tail. When a person is reduced to violation of the license agreement (by disassmbling object code) to fix a bug, that stinks. I would lay blame on human frailty, but what good would it do? Goodness, if people had source, why they'd steal it or copy it or break it and still ask for support. Or not, but not having source really makes it a chore to fix problems. Forty-two curses on the marketing, legal, and management dweebs who came up with the idea of limited-use binary licenses, and on the techie dweebs who implemented the practice. BTW, anyone who has called any tech support facility with a non-trivial question knows what kind of support can be expected. It doesn't matter which company (3-letter, 4-letter, who cares) they all perform or mostly fail to perform about the same. I like the ploy of a one-operator 800 service with a constantly busy response. -- Mike Murphy Sceard Systems, Inc. 544 South Pacific St. San Marcos, CA 92069 mrm@Sceard.COM {hp-sdd,nosc,ucsd,uunet}!sceard!mrm +1 619 471 0655