Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!sei!bwb
From: bwb@sei.cmu.edu (Bruce Benson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win3 to support mem management
Message-ID: <8383@fy.sei.cmu.edu>
Date: 28 Aug 90 17:40:03 GMT
References: <1990Aug20.191715.19173@amd.com> <14160005@hpspdra.HP.COM>
Reply-To: bwb@sei.cmu.edu (Bruce Benson)
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 36

In article <14160005@hpspdra.HP.COM> sam@hpspdra.HP.COM (Sam Espartero) writes:

>	MOVE'EM can do the same thing right now for 386 machines. You
>can have your network device drivers in config.sys loaded in HiDOS, the
>redirector in HiDOS, and other, stuff and Windows 3.0 runs in Enhanced
>Mode. We tried both MOVE'EM 1.02 and 1.04 and they just worked great.
>This has saved us from 80-90K of conventional RAM before firing up
>Windows 3.0.

I read that this was true for both move'em and qram.  I bought  
qram (arbitrary choice) and it didn't work as well as I hoped:

1. QRAM would not recognize microsofts emm386.sys (works with himem.sys) as
an expanded memory manager (thou emm386.sys appeared to supply expanded
memory to a few applications I tried).

2. I installed an old intel above board with 2 mb expanded, and qram would
happily access it using the intel emm.sys.  Unfortunately, win3.0 would
only come up in standard mode (not bad, but not the best use of a 386 with
8 Mb memory).

I am cautious of what reallly works:  did your 386s have C&T chipsets?  Did
you use MS emm386.sys to get at high memory?  How about posting or mailing
your working config.sys?

Since all I want is high memory access (I live in windows), then a utility
like move'em is all I need.  I'll go plunk down another $50(?) for 
move'em but only if it'll work with emm386.sys/himem.sys and not because it
makes use of unique hardware (e.g., C&T).

Thanks

* Bruce Benson                   + Internet  - bwb@sei.cmu.edu +       +
* Software Engineering Institute + Compuserv - 76226,3407      +    >--|>
* Carnegie Mellon University     + Voice     - 412 268 8469    +       +
* Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890       +                             +  US Air Force