Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a752 From: a752@mindlink.UUCP (Bruce Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms Subject: Re: Does everybody hate Windows? Message-ID: <2980@mindlink.UUCP> Date: 28 Aug 90 20:29:37 GMT Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada Lines: 30 > kearns@cs.columbia.edu writes: > Is it just because of my Macintosh background, or does everybody > think the program manager is unintuitive, confusing, and flaky? > Is the program manager "just another windows program" so that soon > we might see better "shells"? I find the program manager excellent, and just what I need for a home computer with a packed hard drive and four family members who are users. Each child has an Icon with their name, and the child window brought up by clicking on the Icon gives the programs that they commonly use. They can get a program just by clicking on the icon, and the program manager (set up by me) takes care of the problems such as which drive and directory is the program actually on, and what the executable file is for a specific program. It is the file manager which I find incredibly frustrating and unintuitive. I am used to Norton Commander, where it is easy to log onto two drives with half of the screen displaying each drive. Drive to drive transfers or copy commands require far too much manipulation in the File Manager, and the mouse commands for copying and moving files are not easy to remember. Let me see: clicking and dragging an icon copies the file (or is it moves the file) unless you press Control (or is it Shift or Alt) unless you are going between different drives at which point the rules don't apply the same way. Who can remember this? Norton Commander at least makes things clear. If you want to move a file, click on the Rename.Move box, and if you want to copy click on the copy box. I hope Norton gets his act together and makes a Windows 3 version of Norton Commander so I can dump the silly file manager. As it is, I am still using Commander as a DOS program for my more complex drive re-organizations as they are too difficult to perform with the File Manager. -- Bruce Dunn Vancouver, Canada a752@mindlink.UUCP