Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!ZIA.AOC.NRAO.EDU!cflatter From: cflatter@ZIA.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Chris Flatters) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Motif 1.1 shipping (please read this too) Message-ID: <9009021943.AA13879@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> Date: 2 Sep 90 19:43:56 GMT Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background) Organization: The Internet Lines: 37 > Chris Flatters: > #I challenge OSF to put their principles where their publicity is and > #release OSF/Motif under the GNU General Public License, either version 1 > #or, at their option, a later version. > > Since Sun isn't doing this, why should OSF do it? Greg Hennessy has missed the point. What I am trying to say is that OSF should be giving the source to OSF/Motif (a toolkit and window manager) away free of charge. The GNU GPL is simply a way in which they can do this without being unfairly exploited (by unscrupulous vendors charging money for something they got free). I would be perfectly statisfied if the OSF's legal eagles drew up their own license provided that there is free access to the source: I am less concerned about constraining developers who use OSF/Motif to develop applications to distribute their work as free software (this is an aspect of the original GPL that I had forgotten about; however I believe that the relevant clauses of the GNU license have now been rewritten so that applications written using libraries that fall under the GPL do not, now, automatically fall under the GPL themselves). Sun do not use the GNU GPL but they DO give away the source for the XView toolkit and the OPEN LOOK window manager under very generous copyright conditions. This is a big point in favour of the OPEN LOOK user interface. Making the source to OSF/Motif freely available would demonstrate OSF's commitment to open software standards far more convincingly than their current mudslinging campaign against OPEN LOOK. In the meantime their claim that OPEN LOOK is a closed, proprietary standard has a rather hollow ring. Chris Flatters PS. I would also like to see the sources for the OPEN LOOK intrinsics toolkit (OLIT) and a sample version of the OPEN LOOK file manager made freely available.