Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!decwrl!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!thyme!kaleb From: kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Motif 1.1 shipping Message-ID: <1990Sep4.152928.8717@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 4 Sep 90 15:29:28 GMT References: <9009011809.AA08100@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 38 In article <9009011809.AA08100@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> cflatter@ZIA.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Chris Flatters) writes: >Since Sun Microsystems are willing to give away the source for their >"proprietary" XView toolkit (with enough bits and pieces to make a level >1 implementation of OPEN LOOK) I find it inexplicable that the "Open" >Software Foundation charge for the source for their GUI tookit (and top >this with a per-copy fee for distributing binaries). > >I challenge OSF to put their principles where their publicity is and >release OSF/Motif under the GNU General Public License, either version 1 >or, at their option, a later version. As the OSF has made substantial >donations to the Free Software Foundation, I presume that they are in >favour of free software. > You are missing the point! OSF is open; at least to Foundation *members*. IBM, HP, DEC, and a whole slew of other companies to numerous to mention established OSF in a veiled attempt to make *their* software the industry standard. Not-free software protects their investment in the standards, development, and distribution of the Motif toolset. Why, because OSF, and its members, don't want Motif in the public domain. There's some legal mumbo-jumbo about "consideration." If you give something away for free, then that's what it's worth, and it becomes hard to protect. Sun, on the other hand, trying to establish OL as a standard, has no consortium to hold it up, and must therefore resort to giving it away, FREE. Sun's not stupid, anyone can look at the widespread enthusiasm that GNU software receives; Sun wants their product to receive widespread acclaim, so, they give it away. Recent comments about the *quality* of Motif 1.1 may give Sun a chance to gain some ground against OSF. May the best product win. Isn't capitalism wonderful. -- Kaleb Keithley Jet Propeller Labs kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov "So that's what an invisible barrier looks like!"