Path: utzoo!utstat!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!brahms!cdr From: cdr@brahms.amd.com (Carl Rigney) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: The Joys of C news Keywords: C news, noise Message-ID: <1990Aug26.074604.10583@amd.com> Date: 26 Aug 90 07:46:04 GMT References: <1990Aug21.161506.21784@zoo.toronto.edu> <3ND5KOC@xds13.ferranti.com> <1990Aug24.204636.8619@zoo.toronto.edu> Sender: usenet@amd.com (NNTP Posting) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices; Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 36 In article <1990Aug24.204636.8619@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <3ND5KOC@xds13.ferranti.com> peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes: >>It did a better job than C news. Really. C news is a far superior product >>once you get it installed, but it's a pain to install and there are all >>sorts of administration gotchas... > >Opinions vary on this. We've had no shortage of "went in fine, no problems" >comments, and several comments that it's much more sysadmin-friendly (!). >It may be that one's background makes a difference, with some things not >being done the way some people are used to. My opinion is that C news is a huge win over B news. I was a newsadmin under B news for years and years, and have only used C news for 5 months - I'll never go back. Yes, C news does some things differently, and the installation wasn't quite so magical as perl, but it wasn't all *that* hard and the ease of administration since has repayed the initial efforts manyfold. The improved expire alone is worth it, to say nothing of the dbz speedup and greater ease of customization. Now if you'd just number your patches so its easy to tell if I'm behind the latest rev, life would be perfect. But that's a very small flaw in a very big and useful program, and it would be churlish to whine about it. I suspect most of the problems Peter has would go away if he just got into the habit of doing everything as news, not root. Works for me! Thanks for a wonderful program, Henry (& Geoff)! Just another satisfied C news admin, Carl Rigney cdr@amd.com "Net news is the television of computing." -- Geoff Collyer