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From: reynolds@felix.UUCP (David Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: inappropriate postings  (The continuing saga...)
Message-ID: <150740@felix.UUCP>
Date: 30 Aug 90 19:30:27 GMT
References: <64347@oliveb.atc.olivetti.com]  <2148@lectroid.sw.stratus.com> <536@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>
Reply-To: reynolds@felix.UUCP (David Lee Reynolds)
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In article <536@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> sandee@sun16 (Daan Sandee) writes:
>In article <64347@oliveb.atc.olivetti.com]  mjm@oliven.olivetti.com (Michael Mammoser) writes:
>] 	The issue, to rec.birds, is not whether the group should
>] be split to accomodate groups of differing interests. The definition
>] of rec.birds is quite clear, and accomodates the appropriate
      ^^^^^^^^^
      Really?
      Using this analogy then, rec.aquaria is obviously for those who ONLY 
      track, count, or view, (not own) fish right?  I mean why would I post a 
      question about fish to rec.aquaria, when there is an APPROPRIATE group 
      called rec.pets???

>] convince the inappropriate people to take their postings and their 
>] discussion of a newsgroup split back to the appropriate place, namely
>] rec.pets.

      Thank you for labeling groups of people as "unappropriate" in your last
      entry.

      I feel we should add the group called, "rec.birds.flamewar" because in
      the last week I have the following message counts:

      out of 175 new messages I found:
      20 birding related questions, answers, comments..
      10 pet bird owners questioning methods for improved health of their birds.
      4  about some stupid name change for rec.dinnerhouse or such
      2  about fish??? 
      139 Flames on topics ranging from name changes to name calling and the
          likes.  (My old boss calls these people, the wining and snivelling
	  twits, group).

>Agreed. One way is the current effort to establish rec.pets.dogs. Another is .
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
						    rec.pets.birds
      I can live with this, but the one thing I still can not understand is
      why this is such a BIG issue???  I thought we could all share with out
      resorting to name calling, and flame wars!  
	
>In article <2148@lectroid.sw.stratus.com]  mm@lectroid.sw.stratus.com (Mike Mahler) writes:
>] 	change the name to rec.birding.
			   ^^^^^^^^^^^
			   SEEMS GOOD TO ME!!!

>You mean the suggestion to change the name - I don't know of any vote.
>As a birder, I'm quite happy with the current name, but I approve of the
>suggestion to change it to make it less ambiguous, and so to add force to
>the effort of getting inappropriate postings out of this group.
		       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Well, I guess it is hard for some people to wade through a whopping 10
      articles, (AT THE ABSOLUTE MOST) per day in this group, so yes please do
      change the name.

      I am saddened by this one fact though, you avid birders are the very
      people I have turned to for help with the birds I own, and a select few
      actually were able to over come the "I'm better then you" attitude, of
      Daan Sandee, and offer quite excellent ideas, so if this is the kind of 
      way you want to cut the ties of friendship, then I guess I was wrong
      about how nice most of you are!

>Daan Sandee                                           sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu
>Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
>Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052  (904) 644-7045

David Lee Reynolds