Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!usc!samsung!uunet!mcsun!ukc!axion!dumbo!jhiggott From: jhiggott@dumbo.axion.bt.co.uk (jeff higgott) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Some new European field guides: reactions? Message-ID: <1990Sep3.090828.10317@axion.bt.co.uk> Date: 3 Sep 90 09:08:28 GMT References: <129704@kean.ucs.mun.ca> <1990Aug31.115838.27128@axion.bt.co.uk> <130839@kean.ucs.mun.ca> Sender: news@axion.bt.co.uk Reply-To: JHiggott@axion.bt.co.uk Organization: British Telecom Research Labs Lines: 40 In article <130839@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, dgraham@kean.ucs.mun.ca (David Graham) writes: |> Thanks, Jeff, you just saved me some money! I guess I'll look for the |> Hamlyn photographic guide instead... I wouldn't buy only the photographic guide. I believe that a photographic guide should complement a traditional field guide. There are many things that photographs do not show - how many birds can you get to pose facing left to right in perfect light? On the other hand, paintings can show a bird's plumage accurately but often do not capture the character. Photos also can be extremely unjizzy. The pictures in the Hamlyn Guide I feel are on the whole a very good selection (and at several thousand colour photos for \pounds 15 is excellent VFM). Don't dismiss the Kinfisher and Jizz guides without giving them a look, they may be what you are looking for. But do look past the pictures to see what more they offer. I would consider the following guides: - The Shell Guide - now 7 years old but covers all British regular birds and vagrants (up to 1980). Not without its errors, but the most useful text - and some very good paintings of every conceivable plumage (almost). **** - Macmillan Guide - State of the Art in ID. Covers confusable groups of species (eg eclipse ducks; Harriers; Locustella warblers...). You won't find Avocet or Chaffinch in here so if you want a guide to all the species don't buy this. A fairly advanced guide with excellent plates from the late Laurel Tucker and Alan Harris. Expensive for a small book at \pounds 15, but I think it is worth it. ***** - Collins Guide (Europe, North Africa and Middle East). Now quite an old book but shows lots of species. Pictures not bad, text OK. *** - Country Life Guide (Europe). Text the same as the Hamlyn photographic guide (good). The old plates distinctly lack jizz but the waders, gulls, terns and raptors have been repainted and are a great improvement. *** Does anybody else have any opinions on British/European field guides? * Jeff Higgott * * * "I bought some batteries but they weren't included"