Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!midway!delphi!bob From: bob@delphi.uchicago.edu (Robert S. Lewis, Jr.) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Jizz Message-ID: <1990Sep4.005215.23543@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 4 Sep 90 00:52:15 GMT References: <6881@milton.u.washington.edu> <585@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> <90244.113301JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET> <1990Sep1.231807.9059@nmt.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: bob@delphi.UUCP (Robert S. Lewis, Jr.) Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 35 In article <1990Sep1.231807.9059@nmt.edu> john@nmt.edu (John Shipman) writes: >Josh Hayes (JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET) writes: >Although I have to respect those with this kind of deep >field experience, sometimes I think the use of these terms [jizz or gestalt] >can be self-deceiving. >It seems to me that sometimes such usage comes from the >strong urge to twitch a species (that is, check off a >species on a list---another British usage becoming common in >the US), and is used to support sightings in the absence of >any truly hard evidence. Then again, we all identify our friends and relatives by their jizz--and who'd ever think of asking us for "truly hard evidence" when we claim we saw our friend Johnnie at the local watering hole--unless of course Johnnie was holding up the bartender.... Jizz is extremely reliable once you're familiar with a species (and the species similar to it), but to convince others you may need to give some harder evidence along with the "subjective" interpretation of the bird's appearance. Saying the gull you saw was a Herring Gull and not a Ring-Billed Gull because it looked meaner is okay, but it gets better when you can say it looked meaner because its forehead was flatter, its eye relatively less round and prominent, and it's bill bigger. Of course, even these more specific statements are subjective and interpretive--and it's remarkably easy to convince yourself that a bird has the specific ("objective") characteristics of the bird you are expecting to see or you really want to see. Whenever you're looking for a Louisiana Waterthrush, those Northern Waterthrushes all start getting whiter eyebrows that broaden behind the eye. Even "truly hard evidence" can be suspect when the urge to "twitch" gets too strong.