Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: attcan!ron@uunet.UU.NET (Ron Joma) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Us Fighter Designations Message-ID: <1990Aug28.030941.22149@cbnews.att.com> Date: 28 Aug 90 03:09:41 GMT References: <1990Aug10.010748.29824@cbnews.att.com> <1990Aug22.025006.15437@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Canada Inc., Toronto Lines: 36 Approved: military@att.att.com From: attcan!ron@uunet.UU.NET (Ron Joma) In article <1990Aug22.025006.15437@cbnews.att.com>, adrian@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt) writes: > > > In the "633 Squadron" books, mention is made several times of German fighters > having their guns angled up by about 2 degrees. The idea was to force pilots > to fly under their targets, primarily bombers with less defensive firepower > underneath than above. Of course, the "633 Squadron" series is fiction, but > does anyone know if the Germans really did do this? > There is mention of this technique being used by the Luftwaffe night fighters, the so called schragge musik, literally jazz music, where the gun was pointed up about 20 degrees, being mounted behind the pilot on ME 110's. The idea was to fly close and underneath an intruder and then fire away. Dangerous but effective when a target was aquired. There are a number of good references: Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe; Night Fighter amoungst others. I find that most of the WW2 books detailing this are out of print, with the possible exception of the Ballantine War Series, but that used book stores remain a good source. Gallands book (First and Last) though fairly tough to read - more of an essay than a memoir, does spend some time on tactics. I do not recall that mention is made of 2 degree up angle of guns amounting to anything. ****************************************************************************** * Ronald Joma * I speak to the masses through the media, * * AT&T - Montreal * And if you have anything to say to me * * attcan!cmtl01!ron * You can say it with CASH! * ******************************************************************************