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From: kjetil@ifi.uio.no (Holm-Kjetil Holmsen)
Newsgroups: sci.military
Subject: Re: F-104 Ejection Seats and Other Trivia
Message-ID: <1990Aug28.042912.29663@cbnews.att.com>
Date: 28 Aug 90 04:29:12 GMT
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From: kjetil@ifi.uio.no (Holm-Kjetil Holmsen)

In article <1990Aug24.034122.636@cbnews.att.com>,
newave!john@uunet.UU.NET (John A. Weeks III) writes:
> 
	[stuff deleted]
> that the plane had finding a customer).  To paraphrase, they claimed
that
> that most modern fighters, even the F-15, would find the F-104 very
> difficult to dispose with when the F-104 was flown in the right
hands.
> 

This gives me a chance to pass on some "gossip" from my days in the 
Norwegean Air Force:  My CO, a german captain (I was stationed at 
NATO HQ AFNORTH), told us that quite often F-104's from the german
navy had to be 'talked down' when landing.  Even in broad daylight.
Reason: The cannopy was frosted over by _sea_spray_ !

"Herr Capitain, Herr Capitain!  Incomming F-104 on starboard bow....
 Sir, not up there, down there, between those two fregats (sp)."

Holm-Kjetil Holmsen, Comp. Sci student.		email: kjetil@ifi.uio.no
Dept. of Informatics
University of Oslo
NORWAY