Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!cbnews!military From: fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Us Fighter Designations Message-ID: <1990Aug30.030354.29959@cbnews.att.com> Date: 30 Aug 90 03:03:54 GMT References: <1990Aug10.010748.29824@cbnews.att.com> <1990Aug28.030941.22149@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 32 Approved: military@att.att.com From: fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) > From: attcan!ron@uunet.UU.NET (Ron Joma) > adrian@cs.heriot-watt.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt) writes: > > In the "633 Squadron" books, mention is made several times of German fighters > > having their guns angled up by about 2 degrees. The idea was to force pilots > > to fly under their targets, primarily bombers with less defensive firepower > > underneath than above. Of course, the "633 Squadron" series is fiction, but > > does anyone know if the Germans really did do this? > > There is mention of this technique being used by the Luftwaffe night fighters, > the so called schragge musik, literally jazz music, where the gun was pointed > up about 20 degrees, being mounted behind the pilot on ME 110's. The idea > was to fly close and underneath an intruder and then fire away. Dangerous > but effective when a target was aquired. Schragemusik was designed into the He-219 "Uhu", which may have been the best purpose-built night fighter of the war. It also had four or so 20mm cannon installed under the nose in a pan for more punch. One variation on schragemusik was a photoelectric cell facing upward. When it found its light blocked, it triggered the cannon, or in some systems, air-to-air rockets. This is said to have had drastic effect on a number of innocent clouds. It doesn't seem to have seen major service. ------------ The only drawback with morning is that it comes at such an inconvenient time of day. ------------