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From: forbis@milton.u.washington.edu (Gary Forbis)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: What AI is exactly.
Message-ID: <7144@milton.u.washington.edu>
Date: 6 Sep 90 15:14:16 GMT
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In article <3543@gara.une.oz.au> pnettlet@gara.une.oz.au (Philip Nettleton) writes:
>b)	The system MUST be autonomous. This can be disected as:
>
>	iii)	The system MUST be motivated. It must have needs and
>		requirements that can to be satisfied by its own actions.
>
>d)	The system MUST be self aware. This is related to autonomy, reasoning
>	and learning, but also embodies the need for external senses. Without
>	external senses there is no way of appreciating the difference between
>	"me" and "outside of me". Sensationations of pain and pleasure can
>	provide motivation.

I think that b)iii) is important but d) may not be required.  Self awareness
does not exist in very young children yet their intelligence seems apparent to
me.  Defining the limits of "me" is one of the first tasks an intelligence 
has to solve; these limits are fuzzy.  I think it is enough to learn how to
interact with one's environment to satisfy one's needs (even if one does not
know those needs or what one has done to satisfy them). I don't know how I
move my arms to grab an apple and shove it in my mouth yet I can do so when
ever I desire.  Am I less intelligent becuase the linkage between my desire
for action and the action itself falls outside my awareness?

--gary forbis@milton.u.washington.edu