Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uunet!motcid!ahlenius From: ahlenius@motcid.UUCP (Mark Ahlenius) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: CLIPS OR NEXPERT Message-ID: <4601@turquoise.UUCP> Date: 12 Sep 90 12:02:27 GMT References: <1084@aviary.Stars.Reston.Unisys.COM> <85250@aerospace.AERO.ORG> Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Div., Arlington Heights, IL Lines: 39 We have both Clips and Nexpert. As far as documention goes, if you want to understand how the inference engine works - CLIPS wins out hands down. Nexpert is a good rule-based system, but I strongly believe their object-oriented features are WAY oversold. I have been a KEE user for several years and it is what I would consider to be a true object-oriented tool. Clips on the other hand is *very* much like OPS-5, except written in C. Unfortunately I have not written any large kbs with it, so I cant speak about its relative speed. CLIPS is available on a very wide selection of platforms - we even ported it to our Motorola 88k box, and it works fine (Unix sys V.). When you purchase CLIPS, you buy one copy ($350.00) and you can make as many copies of the tool for use within your organization as you please. And there are *no* runtime charges (unlike Nexpert). Who said nothing good ever came from NASA for the public sector? My two bits worth are to get CLIPS and really try to use it. Yeah, it does not have a spiffy graphics interface, but then you are not paying for one either. My experience with Nexpert is that you get very tired of the spreadsheet like rule and object editors, once you learn their commands. BTW, the Lisp-like syntax of Nexpert comes from its origin. The tool was originally written in Lisp, and then recoded in C. Another tool worth looking at was introduced at the AAAI-90 show. Pro-Kappa, by Intellicorp. It is a C-based shell that looks very interesting. It has a nice graphics interface, and it too can be embedded. Hope these comments help. 'mark -- =============== regards 'mark ============================================= Mark Ahlenius voice:(708)-632-5346 email: uunet!motcid!ahleniusm Motorola Inc. fax: (708)-632-2413 Arlington, Hts. IL, USA 60004