Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen From: davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Workstation Data Integrity Message-ID: <2497@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> Date: 6 Sep 90 19:45:30 GMT References: <6797.26d6edce@vax1.tcd.ie> <56qmo1w162w@zl2tnm.gp.govt.nz> <19875@crg5.UUCP> <19208@dime.cs.umass.edu> <3405@awdprime.UUCP> Reply-To: davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) Organization: GE Corp R&D Center, Schenectady NY Lines: 21 In article <3405@awdprime.UUCP> tif@doorstop.austin.ibm.com (Paul Chamberlain/32767) writes: | I do not pretend to answer the original question but only to say that | this answer is unfounded. According to my statistics class this is only | true if the two events are independent. Perhaps the question could have | been read as: There are exceptions to every assumption, but assuming that most memory systems are based on 1 bit wide chips, alpha strikes (which seem to be the common cause of bit errors) would be limited to one bit in a word. I think the answer is that multibit errors in a word are rare. My hardware guru says that one particle should only hit one bit, even in the same chip, and that depending on the chip it can only make one state transition. That means on some chips it can change 0 to 1, but not back. The alpha hit discharges the capacitor in the cell. Sounds right to me, but I don't claim to be a hardware type. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) VMS is a text-only adventure game. If you win you can use unix.