Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!hayes.fai.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: FREE0612@uiucvmd (David Lemson) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: How Can I Tell What Switch is Being Used? Message-ID: <11938@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 10 Sep 90 02:54:39 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 24 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 633, Message 7 of 12 Paolo Bellutta writes: >Is there a way to determine the type of switch the telco is using? >Last December I got my number changed, after a couple of months I >discovered by accident that now I can use tone dialling. One way to tell is if you have call waiting, the newer ISDN-ready switches (i.e. AT&T 5ESS) uses a small beep instead of the horrible old-style clink-clank. Also, the beep is only heard on the side of the person with the second call. So, you can disregard the second call if you wish, without the other side knowing. Another caveat about what you might be doing. I've heard several stories about someone 'accidentally' realizing that they could dial tone (without specifically subscribing to the service), and finding a bill for it on their bill! Those new switches can recognize all sorts of tones that aren't supposed to be there (a certain 2600 Hz tone is an example ... much to the chagrin of the phreakers), including those DTMF tones. David Lemson InterNet: free0612@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu