Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!hayes.fai.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: klb@pegasus.att.com (Kevin Blatter) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: SMDR's and Credit Card Calls Message-ID: <11998@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 10 Sep 90 20:32:17 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 49 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 635, Message 3 of 13 In article <11905@accuvax.nwu.edu>, davidb@pacer.uucp (David Barts) writes: > klb@pegasus.att.com (Kevin L. Blatter) writes: > > I wrote call > > accounting systems which utilizes SMDR information for billing or > > whatever and our standard practice was if we saw a calling card number > > come through that we stripped the information out and classified the > > call as a 'charge call' which meant that we would not rate the call. > > However, we could have stored the information for who-knows-what > > purpose. > Of more concern to me is what happens to an SMDR printout AFTER the > hotel (or who/whatever) is no longer interested in it. Is it treated > as the sensitive information it is (and shredded or incinerated), or > do they just toss it into the dumpster and leave it waiting for the > next pair of prying eyes to come along? (I have this nasty feeling > that the latter is all-too-common.) Of course, this would be entirely up to the powers-that-be, but in my case, there was no hard-copy (except in one case where the chinese manager of a Waikiki Hotel who would manually verify the SMDR output with the calls logged in the system, but that's another story...). Anyway, with the system that I worked with, there was no option to save the information. The best that could be done would be to split the RS-232 SMDR feed and have one line go to the system while the other would be processed by the Call Accounting system. In other words, if we saw a billed-to-third-party call ie. calling card, we simply ignored the 'Call Record'. I do however, agree with Mr. Barts that hotel personnel tend to follow the general attitude in society that a calling card number is somehow not to be considered proprietary information and throw it in bins with the rest of the garbaGarbage. In fact, my opinion is that in general people in this country are ignorant of the way the phone system works. Recently, I had an acquaintance express to me that it didn't make a difference which Long Distance carrier one had since all of the money went to "Ma Bell" anyway! She also couldn't figure out what all the flap was about with the LD wars, using the above argument again. Wow, that's scary! Kevin L. Blatter AT&T - Bell Labs Lincroft, NJ Disclaimer - AT&T probably has a policy on the above opinions, but these opinions are my own.