Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!dsl.pitt.edu!pitt!willett!ForthNet From: ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: A SIGForth is starting in ACM - Help! Message-ID: <1699.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us> Date: 10 Sep 90 02:08:33 GMT Organization: String, Scotch tape, and Paperclips. (in Pgh, PA) Lines: 36 Category 5, Topic 3 Message 61 Sun Sep 09, 1990 ATFURMAN at 02:31 PDT FIG: Member services such as exchange of information via chapter meetings, technical conferences, and GEnie/ForthNet (MAJOR contribution--good show, Gary Smith!); distribution of software and textbooks. Contrary to popular belief, FIG is about an even mix of hobbyists and professionals rather than predominantly hobbyist. Informality reigns. SIGForth: A presence for Forth inside the professional/research/academic Establishment. Publications and conferences address software engineering topics of special professional concern such as reliability and project management (along with general technical topics). SIGForth was intended to complement FIG by reaching professionals who never joined FIG, by leveraging off ACM's aura of starchy professionalism, and by doing whatever else is needed to make Forth application design a viable way of making a living with a bearable level of job-hunting hassle. Bottom line: The two organizations, put together, address essential needs of the Forth community, which no single organization could. FIG's freewheeling, open atmoshphere would shrivel if FIG tried to put on the kind of professional image that promotion in the commercial arena demands. I would feel the loss personally. It is worth paying two sets of dues to avoid it. ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated process. Report problems to: uunet!willett!dwp or dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us