Xref: utzoo comp.mail.sendmail:2108 comp.sys.dec:3998 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!comp.vuw.ac.nz!asjl From: Andy.Linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton) Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.dec Subject: Sendmail 5.64 IDA 1.3.4 / DEC mail11v3 problem Message-ID: <1990Sep13.021422.22907@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Date: 13 Sep 90 02:14:22 GMT Sender: news@comp.vuw.ac.nz (News Admin) Reply-To: Andy.Linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz Organization: Computer Science Dept, Victoria Univ, Wellington, NEW ZEALAND Lines: 41 I need to be able to use Sendmail 5.64 IDA to talk to DEC's mail11v3 mailer on an Ultrix box which has DECnet-Ultrix installed. I've got the sendmail built but when I try to invoke mail11v3 it just hangs as though it was waiting for something else on stdin e.g. # /usr/lib/sendmail -ba -t -v From: asjl@golem.wcc.govt.nz To: brockie@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz Subject: test hello . 050 brockie@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz... Connecting to kosmos (DECNET)... 050 220 Mail-11_V3.0 DECnet-ULTRIX Mail-11 Mailer 050 >>> HELO golem.wcc.govt.nz 050 250 Mail-11_V3.0 DECnet-ULTRIX Mail-11 Mailer 050 >>> MAIL From: 451 brockie@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz... timeout waiting for input 050 brockie@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz... Deferred I note that the DECnet-Ultrix Release Notes say: You can use the new mail11v3 mailer only with the supported sendmail that comes with ULTRIX-32 V3.0a due to modifications that were necessary for the mailer to be compatible with the DECnet MAIL-11 protocol. I interpret this to mean that that they changed the internals of sendmail so that it behaves differently when talking to this particular mailer. This sounds like VERY BAD practice to me - the task of converting to the DECnet MAIL-11 protocol is one that should be undertaken by the mail11v3 program. What I need is either a replacement for mail11v3 which behaves correctly or as a very poor second choice details of what I need to do sendmail. DEC: please don't do this sort of thing to us - it really sucks!