Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!occrsh!uokmax!apple!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!dayvb!nieland!ted From: ted@nieland.DAYTON.OH.US (Ted Nieland) Newsgroups: comp.org.decus Subject: Re: CD-ROMs with DECUS softwareREAD/NEW Message-ID: Date: 9 Sep 90 01:10:50 GMT References: <900901162055.000009F1@MARVIN.CTSS.CO.UK> <31806.26e4edc7@ccavax.camb.com> Lines: 41 >In article <31806.26e4edc7@ccavax.camb.com> bruce@ccavax.camb.com writes: >In article <900901162055.000009F1@MARVIN.CTSS.CO.UK>, VERKADE@CTSS.CO.UK (Herman Verkade) writes: >> In the DECUS US Chapter newsletters I have seen announcements of various >> CD-ROMs with DECUS software. I have tried get hold of them, but the DECUS >> office here (in the UK) tells me they are not available, because of `some >> legal problem'. Does anybody know more about this? > >Don't know for sure, but some DECUS s/w has historically been restricted >because of the export licensing of anything involving DES. > (Material Deleted) > >In the meantime, if you can read 4mm DAT or 8mm Exabyte, and ask nicely, >you may well find someone willing to pop one in and let it spin for you. The CD-Roms are not allowed to be sent out of the country due to ITAR regulations. A program I submitted to the SIG tapes for the past couple of years includes DES code (which I got from Sweden), but cannot be sent out of the country under the current impression of the regulations by the DECUS Lawyers. The DECUS Library committee is working on the problem to see if the regulation can be bypassed under publications laws (the code has been "published" on Usenet and the Internet). The Library would love to send the CD-Roms to other chapters and have done so with the ones that do not restricted software on them. If the ITAR regulations are enforceable on the CD-Roms, however, anyone caught sending a copy of the CD-Roms on 8mm or DAT would be in violation or U.S. Law. The best thing to do at this time is let the lawyers finish up their work. For Future Reference, the Library is going to try and to a better job of screening software going on the CD-Roms to make sure they won't have such problems again. We don't think that most people would mind taking a program off the CD-Rom (with an explanation) in order to make the CD-Rom more distributable. -- M. Edward (Ted) Nieland U.S. DECUS Library Committee Ted@NIELAND.DAYTON.OH.US (aka uunet!dayvb!nieland!ted)