Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken!bert.llnl.gov!howell From: howell@bert.llnl.gov (Louis Howell) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Publications (was Re: Musing on Constitutionality) Message-ID: <1990Sep7.091041@bert.llnl.gov> Date: 7 Sep 90 16:10:41 GMT References: <11503@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <82778@aerospace.AERO.ORG> <11521@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <1990Sep3.182712.2260@world.std.com> <11548@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <12945@paperboy.OSF.ORG> <11608@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <55@hyprion.ddmi.com> <11622@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Reply-To: howell@bert.llnl.gov (Louis Howell) Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Lines: 37 In article <11622@medusa.cs.purdue.edu>, spaf@cs.purdue.EDU (Gene Spafford) writes: |> I'm not trying to exclude anything. I'm trying to find out if someone |> *knows* (not believes or hopes for) the legal definition of what makes |> something a publication. Further discussion on the topic is largely |> meaningless otherwise. |> |> [...] |> |> I claim that I see a difference between a sheet run off on an |> irregular basis in a basement and the NY Times. I didn't claim it |> deserves any less protection under the 1st (nor did I claim it |> deserved the same -- I just said I see a difference). I then asked if |> there is a legally defined difference, and if there is a legal |> definition of exactly what consititutes a publication. I'm still |> waiting for a definitive answer. Personal attacks do not constitute |> an informed answer. :-) Why does it matter? If somehow something doesn't "qualify" as a publication, due to small print run, no subscribers, passed out free, etc., then it becomes a question of free speech rather than free press. Does it really make a difference whether I make one copy and invoke freedom of speech, or make 50 copies and invoke freedom of the press? Last time I heard, both were mentioned in the First. Who cares where we put the dividing line on what is really a continuous spectrum? I'm not saying there are no or should be no legal differences in other areas such as copyright law. This is strictly a question of freedom from government intrusion. -- Louis Howell "A few sums!" retorted Martens, with a trace of his old spirit. "A major navigational change, like the one needed to break us away from the comet and put us on an orbit to Earth, involves about a hundred thousand separate calculations. Even the computer needs several minutes for the job."