Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!giza.cis.ohio-state.edu!len From: len@giza.cis.ohio-state.edu (Len Rose) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Musing on Constitutionality Summary: The SS did bring "experts".. Keywords: SS raids gestapo hacker seizure Message-ID: <83516@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: 8 Sep 90 04:52:05 GMT References: <12945@paperboy.OSF.ORG> <11608@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <55@hyprion.ddmi.com> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Distribution: comp Organization: Netsys in Exile Lines: 24 In a previous article rabbit@hyprion.UUCP (Dr. Roger Rabbit) writes: >You know - I wonder why the SS just doesn't get a computer expert to >come with them to the site of the raid and duplicate the hard drive >contents? Why do they need to take someone's machine?? ... And, I DON'T >want to hear anything that implies that "Oh well, if we're raiding them, >they must be guilty of something...." In most cases they did bring so called experts with them. Unfortunately, from personal experience it seemed as if the "expert" wasn't. Having to explain how to decrypt files, perform a file scan, start an lp daemon, and shut down an active system made me wonder. These "experts" were from Bell South, Bellcore, and AT&T. In regards to Phrack Magazine publishing anything illegal, I don't believe they ever did. Most of the articles were culled either from legitimate sources or were submitted by kids living in the past. I cannot claim to be an expert on Phrack however, since I didn't read it often. Perhaps what I say doesn't mean much anymore, but I do have something to contribute.. even if it's from a prison cell. Len