Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!samsung!uunet!mcsun!ukc!axion!vision!chris From: chris@vision.UUCP (Chris Davies) Newsgroups: uk.misc,eunet.followup,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Internet routing Europe - USA -} Europe... Message-ID: <1216@vision.UUCP> Date: 5 Sep 90 12:13:33 GMT References: <1990Aug30.091435.1982@ircam.ircam.fr <6190@vanuata.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <1213@vision.UUCP> Reply-To: chris@vision.UUCP (Chris Davies) Organization: VisionWare Ltd., Leeds, UK Lines: 34 In article <1213@vision.UUCP> I wrote, > Not only can't you use tcp/ip over JANET, but commercial sites (in my > experience) can't even use JANET as it stands - not even for real money. > So no NIFTP, etc. In article jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid) replied: >This is untrue. Commercial sites may use JANET provided they have good >reasons for doing so, essentially collaboration with an academic site >on a research project. JANET cannot be used for purely commercial >traffic (shunting data between a company's offices - or two distinct >commercial sites - in Exeter and Aberdeen say). Sorry, I should have stated my point more clearly. I was aware of this. But I think I'm correct in stating that a direct connection to JANET (as such) by a commerical site is not permissible (and so all traffic must go through a gateway - thus mail only, in effect). >The rules are roughly >similar to those for use of NSFnet: "free" government funded networks >must not subsidise commercial traffic. But if the commercial site(s) were to pay for their use of the government funded networks, then I don't see why this shouldn't be acceptable. With the current situation, I would agree that commercial sites should not exploit JANET for commercial gain. Chris -- VISIONWARE LTD | UK: chris@vision.uucp JANET: chris%vision.uucp@ukc 57 Cardigan Lane | US: chris@vware.mn.org OTHER: chris@vision.co.uk LEEDS LS4 2LE | BANGNET: ...{backbone}!ukc!vision!chris England | VOICE: +44 532 788858 FAX: +44 532 304676 -------------- "VisionWare: The home of DOS/UNIX/X integration" --------------