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From: J.Crowcroft@CS.UCL.AC.UK (Jon Crowcroft)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Internet routing Europe - USA -} Europe...
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Date: 6 Sep 90 14:17:22 GMT
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 > I'll say it again. We, Spider, as suppliers of TCP/IP Software, and TCP/IP
 >kit such as routers and bridges, are ready willing and able to get involved 
 >in IP networking in the UK. Connectivity to the greater Internet would be
 >a boon and asset. We would to do it yesterday. We think it would benefit 

Brian,

 I'd be quite happy to do it for free, along with cambridge,
edinburgh and a few other quite large universities...however, there
are certain difficulties in terms of migrating a network the size of
the UK academic one (many users of which, contrary to your statement
do know what they'd get from the Internet protocol suite; but what
about what others lose, like do you,Spider, supply VM/MVS TCP/IP or VMS
NFS or VME X Windows, or COS SNMP? - i think not...)

 Altern[ea]tively, I think someone should do the cost estimates
to see if they could bid to replace the JNT on
the same budget, and run a UK Internet - or write a pursuasive case
that more money would provide more service (I'd do it but I dont have
spare profit to cycle back into R&D:-) if its so useful, btw, why dont
spider lease a line and sell off IP services to netcomm/case/york:-)

by the way, we, UCL are suppliers of a few modest
OSI applications, for free:-)

 jon