Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!news.funet.fi!funic!santra!fuug!sti!ttl From: ttl@sti.fi (Timo Lehtinen) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: CCITT Group 3 question: "early" EOL Message-ID: <1990Aug29.212103.6943@sti.fi> Date: 29 Aug 90 21:21:03 GMT References: <1990Aug29.194009.6820@sdd.hp.com> Reply-To: ttl@sti.fi (Timo Lehtinen) Distribution: comp Organization: Stream Technologies Inc. Lines: 35 In article <1990Aug29.194009.6820@sdd.hp.com> andrea@sdd.hp.com (Andrea K. Frankel) writes: > > - Or should a robust implementation be able to decode > Group 3 files where some rows are ended "early" with an EOL > (in which case presumably the rest of the row is white)? In my opinion Rec. T.4 does not give an explicit answer to this question. In addition to section 2.1 (which you quoted) the only other lines in the part of the document that define the one-dimensional coding scheme that might be relevant to the question at hand are in section 4.1.1. : ...White runs and black runs alternate. A total of 1728 picture elements represent one horizontal scan line of 215 mm length. The sentence above, the fact that the FAX machines I've tested this feature against have all choked on early EOL's and mostly the same reasoning that you give at the end of your message has lead me to think that an implementation that outputs lines with early EOL's s non-conformant. I've only seen early EOL's generated by software tools that are not nessessarily meant to be used with FAX modems as that. The G3 filters in the PBMPLUS package behave like this and (if my memory serves) the encode/decode routines in the ISODE/QUIPU/PHOTO system also produce scan lines shorter than 1728. (I'm not absolutely sure about the latter one.) BTW, The newsgroup alt.fax might be a more appropriate place for this discussion. Timo Lehtinen -- ____/ ___ ___/ / Kivihaantie 8 C 25 / / / SF-00310 HELSINKI, Finland ____ / / / Phone: +358 0 573 161, +358 49 424 012 Stream Technologies Inc. Fax: +358 0 571 384