Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!snorkelwacker!apple!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!usenix!jsq From: jsq@usenix.org (John S. Quarterman) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: Standards Update Poll (all responses) Message-ID: <505@usenix.ORG> Date: 12 Sep 90 19:09:07 GMT References: <440@usenix.ORG> <504@usenix.ORG> Sender: jsq@usenix.ORG Lines: 145 Approved: jsq@usenix.org (Moderator, John Quarterman) X-Submissions: std-unix@uunet.uu.net From: jsq@usenix.org (John S. Quarterman) Poll posted on 18 Aug 90 19:49:50 GMT Results as of Mon Sep 10 11:47:10 GMT 1990 96 responses 1: Do you read (y or n): 1: =yes%, no%,bad% 1a: the newsgroup comp.std.unix? = 85%, 14%, 0% 1A: the snitch reports in comp.std.unix? = 83%, 15%, 1% 1B: the EUUG and USENIX reports on WG15 in comp.std.un= 71%, 27%, 1% 1i: the standards column in UNIX Review? = 69%, 29%, 1% 1c: the USENIX newsletter ;login:? = 61%, 38%, 0% 1E: the snitch reports in ;login:? = 51%, 48%, 0% 1w: standards articles in UNIX Today!? = 47%, 51%, 1% 1F: the EUUG and USENIX reports on WG15 in ;login:? = 44%, 55%, 0% 1j: the standards column in Sun Expert? = 40%, 59%, 0% 1k: the standards column in IEEE Computer? = 34%, 64%, 1% 1g: the UniForum POSIX Explored series of technical pa= 23%, 76%, 0% 1f: the USENIX white paper on System Administration fo= 20%, 78%, 1% 1H: the UniForum standards articles in CommUNIXations?= 19%, 77%, 3% 1e: the UniForum magazine CommUNIXations? = 19%, 79%, 1% 1o: standards articles in IEEE Spectrum? = 18%, 81%, 0% 1p: the IEEE Standards Bearer? = 15%, 84%, 0% 1s: the POSIX Tracking Report from Digital? = 14%, 85%, 0% 1r: the IEEE/CS TCOS newsletter? = 13%, 86%, 0% 1q: the IEEE Computer Society's Standards Status Repor= 11%, 88%, 0% 1y: standards articles in UniForum's UniNews? = 11%, 88%, 0% 1h: the UniForum white paper on Internationalization? = 10%, 88%, 1% 1d: the EUUG newsletter EUUGN? = 8%, 91%, 0% 1G: the EUUG and USENIX reports on WG15 in EUUGN? = 7%, 90%, 2% 1n: standards articles in IEEE Micro Magazine? = 7%, 92%, 0% 1C: the snitch reports in std-unix@uunet.uu.net? = 5%, 93%, 1% 1D: the EUUG and USENIX reports on WG15 in std-unix@uu= 5%, 93%, 1% 1b: the mailing list std-unix@uunet.uu.net? = 5%, 94%, 0% 1v: standards articles in UNIX Technology Advisor? = 5%, 94%, 0% 1t: Nina Lytton's Open Systems Observer? = 3%, 96%, 0% 1u: Marosi's standards newsletter? = 3%, 96%, 0% 1x: standards articles in UNIX Journal? = 2%, 96%, 1% 1z: the book Information Technology Standardization by= 2%, 97%, 0% 2: Would you or your company (y or n): 2: =yes%, no%,bad% 2a: join USENIX ($40/year) to get the snitch reports i= 56%, 41%, 2% 2c: pay $20/year as a USENIX member for the standards = 51%, 47%, 1% 2b: pay $35/year to get a separate paper standards new= 37%, 61%, 1% 2d: pay $1000/year to be a patron of such a newsletter= 4%, 93%, 2% 3: What do you really hate (1) or like (5) about the snitch reports: 3: =mean ( 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%;bad%) 3f: opinions of snitches? =3.73 ( 4%, 3%, 23%, 42%, 23%; 2%) 3g: opinions of report editor? =3.61 ( 3%, 4%, 29%, 44%, 16%; 2%) 3e: context (effects on other committe=3.49 ( 2%, 6%, 35%, 32%, 19%; 4%) 3c: accuracy? =3.47 ( 2%, 4%, 35%, 40%, 13%; 4%) 3d: level of technical detail? =3.46 ( 0%, 15%, 30%, 36%, 15%; 2%) 3h: editing? =3.41 ( 0%, 3%, 51%, 32%, 10%; 3%) 3i: editorials? =3.35 ( 1%, 8%, 43%, 37%, 7%; 2%) 3a: timeliness? =3.34 ( 2%, 10%, 40%, 23%, 18%; 4%) 3b: coordination with standards meetin=3.17 ( 0%, 4%, 63%, 22%, 5%; 4%) 3j: oversight by publisher? =2.92 ( 3%, 12%, 61%, 14%, 4%; 4%) 4: What do you want less (1-2), the same (3), or more (4-5) of: 4: =mean ( 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%;bad%) 4d: level of technical detail? =3.64 ( 0%, 2%, 43%, 32%, 19%; 2%) 4l: number of committees covered? =3.57 ( 0%, 5%, 41%, 22%, 26%; 4%) 4e: context (effects on other committe=3.50 ( 0%, 5%, 43%, 36%, 12%; 2%) 4a: timeliness? =3.48 ( 0%, 1%, 46%, 29%, 17%; 5%) 4c: accuracy? =3.41 ( 1%, 0%, 51%, 27%, 15%; 5%) 4k: analytical reports (like the UniFo=3.39 ( 2%, 2%, 42%, 35%, 12%; 5%) 4m: number of reports? =3.30 ( 1%, 8%, 50%, 19%, 16%; 4%) 4b: coordination with standards meetin=3.22 ( 0%, 1%, 64%, 19%, 9%; 5%) 4f: opinions of snitches? =3.15 ( 4%, 6%, 60%, 18%, 8%; 2%) 4g: opinions of report editor? =3.09 ( 4%, 6%, 60%, 18%, 7%; 3%) 4n: length of each report? =3.06 ( 0%, 7%, 66%, 12%, 8%; 5%) 4i: editorials? =3.01 ( 3%, 6%, 68%, 14%, 4%; 3%) 4o: length of editorial? =2.97 ( 2%, 7%, 69%, 12%, 4%; 4%) 4h: editing? =2.94 ( 0%, 3%, 82%, 6%, 3%; 5%) 4j: oversight by publisher? =2.74 ( 6%, 9%, 69%, 7%, 2%; 5%) 5: What should USENIX do less (1-2), the same (3), or more (4-5) of: 5: =mean ( 1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, 5%;bad%) 5i: Sponsor White Papers in particular=3.93 ( 1%, 1%, 18%, 46%, 29%; 3%) 5f: Encourage appropriate people to ge=3.84 ( 1%, 0%, 27%, 41%, 27%; 3%) 5k: Collaborate with other user groups=3.64 ( 2%, 2%, 29%, 30%, 28%; 6%) 5g: Write and present proposals to sta=3.61 ( 2%, 3%, 31%, 37%, 21%; 4%) 5b: Publish reports on standards activ=3.53 ( 0%, 1%, 51%, 36%, 10%; 1%) 5h: Vote with specific comments on sta=3.43 ( 4%, 3%, 39%, 31%, 17%; 4%) 5B: Collaborate with EUUG (European UN=3.42 ( 3%, 1%, 44%, 19%, 22%; 6%) 5c: Hold informal Birds of a Feather (=3.32 ( 0%, 6%, 55%, 28%, 8%; 2%) 5j: Lobby standards oversight bodies r=3.29 ( 3%, 3%, 47%, 27%, 13%; 5%) 5D: Collaborate with AUUG (Australian =3.28 ( 3%, 1%, 45%, 20%, 18%; 8%) 5a: Moderate newsgroups and mailing li=3.26 ( 3%, 2%, 58%, 22%, 10%; 3%) 5e: Hold workshops on standards? =3.24 ( 2%, 8%, 46%, 28%, 10%; 4%) 5J: Collaborate with X/Open? =3.23 ( 4%, 5%, 45%, 19%, 16%; 6%) 5d: Hold formal sessions on standards =3.22 ( 3%, 9%, 45%, 30%, 8%; 3%) 5A: Collaborate with UniForum? =3.21 ( 7%, 1%, 38%, 31%, 12%; 7%) 5F: Collaborate with JUS (Japan UNIX S=3.19 ( 3%, 1%, 50%, 21%, 13%; 8%) 5I: Collaborate with UKUUG (The United=3.16 ( 4%, 3%, 46%, 20%, 14%; 8%) 5l: Collaborate with vendor associatio=3.15 ( 3%, 7%, 48%, 25%, 8%; 5%) 5E: Collaborate with GUUG (The German =3.14 ( 4%, 1%, 52%, 18%, 13%; 8%) 5H: Collaborate with Sinix (The Singap=3.12 ( 3%, 3%, 51%, 19%, 12%; 8%) 5G: Collaborate with NLUUG (The Nether=3.11 ( 4%, 2%, 52%, 17%, 13%; 8%) 5C: Collaborate with AFUU (Association=3.10 ( 4%, 3%, 51%, 17%, 13%; 8%) 5L: Collaborate with the Open Software=3.04 ( 7%, 7%, 48%, 21%, 8%; 4%) 5K: Collaborate with Unix Internationa=3.02 ( 4%, 10%, 46%, 20%, 9%; 6%) 5m: Collaborate with vendor-specific u=2.71 ( 8%, 14%, 54%, 8%, 6%; 6%) 5Q: Collaborate with SUG (Sun User Gro=2.67 ( 10%, 10%, 56%, 7%, 6%; 7%) 5N: Collaborate with DECUS (Digital Eq=2.51 ( 12%, 11%, 59%, 5%, 2%; 7%) 5O: Collaborate with Interex (Internat=2.51 ( 13%, 11%, 56%, 7%, 2%; 7%) 5P: Collaborate with NUUG (NCR Unix Us=2.41 ( 13%, 11%, 58%, 3%, 2%; 9%) 5M: Collaborate with ADUS (Apollo DOMA=2.39 ( 16%, 10%, 57%, 3%, 2%; 8%) 6: Are you a member of (y or n): 6: =yes%, no%,bad% 6a: USENIX? = 60%, 38%, 1% 6q: ACM? = 51%, 47%, 1% 6o: IEEE Computer Society? = 46%, 52%, 1% 6Y: the paper correspondence list for a standards comm= 29%, 69%, 1% 6j: Other user group? = 29%, 66%, 4% 6p: IEEE? = 26%, 72%, 1% 6Z: in the balloting group for a standards committee? = 22%, 76%, 1% 6r: Other professional society? = 22%, 73%, 3% 6b: UniForum? = 18%, 80%, 1% 6X: a standards committee working group (attend meetin= 17%, 81%, 1% 6c: EUUG? = 7%, 91%, 1% 6g: UKUUG? = 3%, 94%, 2% 6h: AUUG? = 3%, 94%, 2% 6d: AFUU? = 0%, 97%, 2% 6e: GUUG? = 0%, 97%, 2% 6f: NLUUG? = 0%, 97%, 2% 6i: JUS? = 0%, 97%, 2% 7: Are you (y or n): 7: =yes%, no%,bad% 7a: a user? = 93%, 5%, 1% 7b: an application implementor? = 73%, 25%, 1% 7c: a system interface implementor? = 55%, 43%, 1% 7h: a manager? = 39%, 58%, 2% 7d: a test suite implementor? = 15%, 83%, 1% 7g: in procurement? = 15%, 83%, 1% 7i: an executive? = 11%, 86%, 2% 7e: in sales? = 3%, 95%, 1% 7f: in marketing? = 3%, 95%, 1% Volume-Number: Volume 21, Number 99