Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: Why put Kickstart on A3000 ROM? (was Re: 512K FastRam) Message-ID: <14200@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 4 Sep 90 23:32:29 GMT References: <1990Sep1.133213.6765@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <1990Sep1.190150.5880@cec1.wustl.edu> Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax (Dave Haynie) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 28 In article <1990Sep1.190150.5880@cec1.wustl.edu> amc@ai.wustl.edu (Adam M. Costello) writes: >In article <1990Sep1.133213.6765@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> leblanc@eecg.toronto.edu (Marcel LeBlanc) writes: >>much rather pay for an extra 512K of RAM! The RAM costs less than the ROM, >>and has much faster access times (especially the SC RAM). Remember that all >RAM costs less than ROM? I'm surprised. How much less? RAM is faster than >ROM? I'm surprised. How much faster? It seems to me that ROM must be simpler >than RAM, so it should be easier and cheaper to make it faster. Why isn't it? >AMC RAM does cost more than ROM, and it's a bit faster. However, you're not going to see the kind of speedups with FASTROM kinds of things on the A3000 as you would on an A2500; that's 32 bit ROM, and it's a bit faster than the ROM of the A2000. You can get 512K (256K x 16) for a couple of dollars or so in large quantities, while that much memory (four 256K x 4 DRAMs, for example) will probably run you $25 or more, and RAM has come WAY down this last year (in '88 or so that might have run you $75-$100). By the way, ROM isn't that much simpler than DRAM -- a DRAM stores a single bit with a single transistor and capacitor, while ROMs and EPROMs typically use one bit, no capacitor. You CAN get much faster ROMs, but not in these densities. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Get that coffee outta my face, put a Margarita in its place!