Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ogicse!decwrl!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <9009031239.AA17487@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 3 Sep 90 13:38:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 125 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Sep 3, 1990 In this issue: RE: CACHE PROGRAM (4 messages) RE: TECO FOR RAINBOW? RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed to the Rainbow Echo on FidoNet. You do not need to take special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 08-30-90 (23:21) To: PAUL ROBINSON Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: CARL HOUSEMAN re: Under federal law, sale of a program gives the owner of that copy the right to transfer that copy to anyone he wants to ... Uhhh, you wanta tell that to Digital? They won't bless a transfer of a VAX layered product out of the bounds of the original purchasing company. Course, you said "sale of a 'program'", when what is really being sold is a license. Was that a slip of the finger, or did you really mean sale of the software itself? - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 08-31-90 (02:29) To: PAUL ROBINSON Subject: RE: TECO FOR RAINBOW? From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS >I have a couple of TECOs available. One is the assembly sources >to one for UNIX on a PDP-11. What is TECO?? - --- TAGMAIL v2.20 * Origin: The Moose's Den2 (HST/V.32) (1:130/35) ------------------------------ Date: 08-31-90 (02:33) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS >Now it happened that a legal owner conveyed the hardware (plugged >into a Rainbow) but failed to convey the software, through >oversight or whatever. Question: wouldn't it be reasonable >to assume that the party to whom the hardware was conveyed >has the right to avail himself of a copy of the software offered >by another party? Well, if you look at it this way... When you got the hardware, you also got a license to the software, and thus, if you need another copy of the same software, it would still be covered by the original lease. Therefore, it would not be illegal for you to make copies of the software availble to someone who also already had the license (even though they did not have the physical software). I sell computers formatted with MS-DOS when a customer buys a copy of MS-DOS from me, but i do not necessarly use the customers diskettes. Is that illegal?? Same basic premis right?? - --- TAGMAIL v2.20 * Origin: The Moose's Den2 (HST/V.32) (1:130/35) ------------------------------ Date: 08-31-90 (02:35) To: DON MARQUART Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS >Technically, the true ownership of the software is determined by >posession of the "original" distribution disk and license. Legally >you should get by with just the original disk to prove ownership. Don't confuse software ownership with ownership of a software license. - --- TAGMAIL v2.20 * Origin: The Moose's Den2 (HST/V.32) (1:130/35) ------------------------------ Date: 09-01-90 (01:55) To: CARL HOUSEMAN Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: PAUL ROBINSON I meant what I said. Whether Digital can claim that the product is licensed, i.e. leased or rented, rather than sold, is a semantic question. There were some points in law that implied that most of the so-called 'licenses' which are - to a degree - feeble attempts to claim they are not selling you the program but only licensing it to you, are not valid. If the owner of the package in effect transfers the program to the 'purchaser' and does nothing else, the claim that it is leased might not hold up. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 ------------------------------ Date: 09-01-90 (07:51) To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Subject: RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN From: MARK FISCHER Well I do not know about OPUS's Memory requirements but Opus is quite the DISK PIG when fully installed. SYSOP of GLACIER PEAK had told me when I asked about disk space requirements that his setup took abot 5mb of space. Two sugggestions - 1. get a ST251 42mb SEAGATE disk (40ms one should be fine) & wutil32 to Format and partion the drive. 2. If the memory board has empty chip sockets populate with 41256-15 256kb chips (this may require you to pull the old 64kb chips out). Remember step two only applies if the memory board is socketed otherwise you may want hunt down the socketed memory board. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (1:343/3.0) ------------------------------