Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <9009081145.AA11999@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 8 Sep 90 12:46:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 62 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Sep 8, 1990 In this issue: RE: CACHE PROGRAM (2 messages) Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed to the Rainbow Echo on FidoNet. You do not need to take special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 09-07-90 (11:28) To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: PAUL ROBINSON I suspect that the courts would rule - in most states - that a "shrink wrap license" being an adhesion contract, is not valid and thus the program has been sold. Furthermore - and I've said it before - that if they can impose an adhesion contract on you, you can do the same. You could mark your check - or credit card slip - "For purchase of software and all contract terms to the contrary are excluded." - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417.0) ------------------------------ Date: 09-07-90 (11:32) To: BILL MAYHEW Subject: RE: CACHE PROGRAM From: PAUL ROBINSON The contract between Digital and a purchaser is a signed contract which - - in theory at least - the user has the opportunity to negotiate. And the point being that the so-called "contract" on a software package is an "adhesion" contract, the theory being that the purchaser is bound by it simply by opening the package, on a take-it-or-leave it basis, without the ability to negotiate. Courts are loath to enforce such contracts because they tend to put the purchaser at a disadvantage. I would suggest that the only way it should be legal to make an adhesion contract valid is if the computer program comes with a warranty as to fitness and merchantability. Otherwise I would claim that the so called contract on a computer program be ignored. The whole purpose of the so called "contract" is to do two things: deny warranty that the program works, and to take away from the purchaser rights that federal law gives him/her. There is another question there about whether a state contract law can enforce an adhesion contract that clearly contravenes Federal copyright law. I do not think this has ever been taken up. - --- Opus-CBCS 1.12 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247 (1:109/417.0) ------------------------------