Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!stjhmc!p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.org!Chris.Gehlker From: Chris.Gehlker@p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Gehlker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: RE: Where does UNIX fit in a graphically-based computer world? Message-ID: <26133.26E8B2D9@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Date: 8 Sep 90 06:01:06 GMT Sender: ufgate@stjhmc.fidonet.org (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/56.12 - AZ MAC UG, Phoenix AZ Lines: 46 In a message to All dated 09/05/90 at 23:35:11, Jason W. Anthony (anthonjw@clutx.clarkson.edu) writes: JWA> I recently unwillingly got invloved in a Mac vs IBM argument, and I left JWA> with an interesting question in mind... The person I was discussing this JWA> with said "the world is going UNIX" and the IBM was more UNIX like. Now, JWA> I feel the world is going toward a graphically-based approach to computing JWA> (Mac, Sun, NeXT, Windows 3.0 and OS/2), so I didn't think much of the JWA> argument. But, I began to wonder how UNIX would fit into such a JWA> world.... I don't think it would be a BAD THING if the world went to UNIX but I've been hearing this for a log time now. The world apprently has a mind of its own. JWA> So, if the world is indeed going GUI, will UNIX fade away, or will JWA> there try to be some kind of combination of the two? Also, why JWA> have we seen very little GUI in the mainframe world? It seems JWA> vector-based graphics and/or smarter terminals could make that JWA> possible. Or is GUI simply a personal computer thing? I think almost all of the desktop systems have some kind of GUI on top of UNIX and X-Windows is, if I understand it correctly, intended to do exactly what you suggest, ie let the smart terminal handle the graphics to overcome the lack of bandwidth between the mainframe/mini and the terminal. This also applies to all the things that run on top of X-Windows, such as Open Look and Motif. My 2 cent opinion is that the reason we don't see much progress in this area is simply the dissonance between the expectations of UNIX users and the expectations of customers for programs with GUIs. UNIX is the domain of the one time program, the kind the programmer builds himself to perform some experiment or calculate some answer. It's also the domain of the program that's constantly under development. Such programs don't need GUIs and its too much work to program one for them. -- Uucp: ...{gatech,ames,rutgers}!ncar!asuvax!stjhmc!56.12!Chris.Gehlker Internet: Chris.Gehlker@p12.f56.n114.z1.fidonet.org