Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!ubc-cs!manis From: manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Rumors aren't rumors anymore Message-ID: <9480@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: 9 Sep 90 15:28:32 GMT References: <7245@milton.u.washington.edu> <8084@helios.TAMU.EDU> Sender: news@cs.ubc.ca Distribution: na Organization: Institute for Pure and Applied Eschatology Lines: 26 I think it's too bad that Allegro CL isn't, apparently, going to be bundled with the system (as with many rumours, I'll believe it when I hear someone from NeXT confirm it officially). Allegro CL is an excellent product, but at least, we assume, Franz will continue supporting it. However, if you're going to have to pay money for a Lisp system, you might want to look at Chez Scheme instead (Scheme is *not* CL). The system comes with a really good compiler; a debugger is in the works, but not ready just yet. It runs fine with Emacs (though we're building our own editor which will support Chez Scheme in a NeXTier way). And it's *small*. Chez Scheme is published by Cadence Research Systems, in Bloomington, IN. The cost is ~US$900 per machine, with a site licence (an entire physical campus) running at US$9000. Educational institutions get a 50% discount. Cadence provides excellent support (15% of pre-discount price per year), too. Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Cadence, other than as a customer. -- \ Vincent Manis "There is no law that vulgarity and \ Department of Computer Science literary excellence cannot coexist." /\ University of British Columbia -- A. Trevor Hodge / \ Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 1W5 (604) 228-2394