Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!snorkelwacker!ai-lab!rice-chex!tmb From: tmb@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Thomas M. Breuel) Newsgroups: comp.text.tex Subject: Re: TUG and TeX... Message-ID: <10478@life.ai.mit.edu> Date: 7 Sep 90 09:38:25 GMT References: <9009040308.AA06677@lilac.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@ai.mit.edu Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab Lines: 53 [dlv writes:] >Here are some ways in which these TeX sellers hurt our community: >* they prevent the spread of TeX. People who've spent $2,000 on software >are less likely to give free copies to others. If they spent $2000 on TeX, they probably bought a proprietary version and would not even legally be permitted to re-distribute it. >* they prevent programmers from releasing the results of their work into the >public domain. People are reluctant to make their programs publicly >available for fear that someone will start selling them; or at least they >distribute them without the source code. Commercial vendors of TeX perform a useful function. I would guess that Knuth, just like MIT (for X windows), and AT&T (for SML of NJ) made a conscious decision to release their (excellent) software such that it may be re-sold for profit. All these institutions/persons could have distributed their software under a copyleft, if they had wanted to, but must have considered that alternative less useful. By allowing vendors to re-sell proprietary versions of free software like TeX, SML, and X windows, you encourage ports to a much larger variety of machines and operating systems. You also encourage advertising and marketing, and commercial versions come with support, are often easier to install and set up, and they don't require downloading. I had considered buying a commercial version of TeX for my Amiga (before I sold the Amiga), because it was simply the least effort way of getting TeX up and running. >* they rip off those ignorant of the existence of better alternatives. >People buy their TeX's instead of spending their computer budget on >something they really need. (Note that buyers of commercial TeXs are >ignorant / not too bright through no fault of theirs.) There is no rip off here. Information is a commodity that costs money just as goods. If you don't invest in the information about where you can get something for free, you have to pay for that something. There is nothing wrong with that. These people could hire consultants who would tell them about the PD versions, but probably the total cost to them would be just as high as if they bought the commercial version, and, in the latter case, they get support. If all of this bothers you so much, perhaps you are willing to spend a couple of thousand dollars advertising the availability of a free version of TeX for the Mac or MS-DOS out of your own pocket. I think altogether the TeX community has benefited from the availability of commercial, proprietary versions of TeX. Most computer users (PC or Mac) wouldn't even have heard of TeX if companies hadn't advertised their proprietary versions in magazines and journals.