Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!occrsh!uokmax!apple!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu From: pjg@acsu.buffalo.edu (Paul Graham) Newsgroups: comp.unix.large Subject: Re: tape/backup systems Message-ID: <35676@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Date: 12 Sep 90 05:48:12 GMT References: <12701@encore.Encore.COM> Sender: news@acsu.Buffalo.EDU Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 23 Nntp-Posting-Host: urth.acsu.buffalo.edu terryk@encore.com (Terence Kelleher) writes: |How do large systems typically deal with the problem of backups? I am |trying to find answers for a 50-100 Gbyte disk system. well we use 8mm. i don't have too awful a feeling about getting the data off a year later. epoch, qstar and some others are into optical jukeboxes. the epoch system is an automagic staging system that uses magnetic and optical disk with an 8mm tape. you turn it on and stuff migrates around of its own volition. neat -- pricey. general atomics has a variant of their mainframe system for unix. it uses a dedicated workstation with a fancy tape (maybe ampex) that holds 10-100 gig. or something like that. somebody (maybe legato) sells a smart network backup system. how smart? well everyone shouts at the tape at the same time and despite that the software keeps it straight (they say). one presumes the idea is to keep that 8mm streaming so you really can write 1G/hr/drive. we had a little chat about this at the anaheim usenix. (about 100 folks in a room for an hour). rob kolstad moderated and posted the outcome a bit ago. look (or ask) in comp.org.usenix. -- pjg@acsu.buffalo.edu / rutgers!ub!pjg / pjg@ubvms